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Day changed Thu 08 Mar 2007
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15:03 @lmm
oh jake
15:12 Philip
Well, it is fairly obvious he is mafia and shot Flying_O and Steven Shenton
Philip
lol 'small water weapon'
Philip
he fired a Max-d at me this morning
15:13 Philip
he would have got me if he had bothered to move within range before doing so
Philip
Arrrr
Philip
I was shot by a beast too horrible to behold
Philip
half badger and half girl, it was
15:14 Philip
We had been looking at each other shiftily through our lecture, and then we stood near the entrance, and he shrugged at me, so I left rather quickly
Philip
I then went and hid in the cafe
@lmm
he said it'd lost pressure or something
Philip
he came out and started looking around for me
@lmm
(jake, that is )
@lmm
but do go on
15:15 Philip
I decided to let him see me, so he could leave in peace, seeing as I had no evidence of him being mafia
Philip
I stepped out, and he saw me
Philip
he then left the building
Philip
I moved to where I could see the entrances and hung around there for a bit
15:16 Philip
his friends left and came back inside, saying that he wasn't there, and that there were rather irked, as they wanted to leave with him
Philip
I took this as a bad sign
Philip
I moved to near to the lecture theatre, and started to ask if his bike was still there
15:17 Philip
at which point he burst out of the lecture theatre, and shot me in the side as I was drawing my RBG
Philip
(he had run around the building, entered through a different entrance, gone upstairs and in through the back of the lecture theatre, and then down and out of the main entrance to it)
15:18 Philip
Rather nicely done, I think
Philip
I don't think he is mafia though
Philip
since he said
Philip
"Are you mafia then? Wait, you probably shouldn't answer that"
Philip
as if he was mafia, he would know who the other mafia are
15:19 @lmm
true
Philip
It could be a cunning ruse, but why would he be trying to confuse someone he has just shot?
15:20 @lmm
for the lulz
@lmm
(if you want to actually know I'm happy to say, since that's what here's for)
15:21 Philip
15:18 <+TheKremlin> I couldn't be arsed to come after you :P
Philip
15:18 <+TheKremlin> this may or may not have had to do with an overrunning supervision.
Philip
lol
Philip
not even trying to hide it any more
@lmm
well given how effective he was being
@lmm
also, who wouldn't kill rev in any case
Philip
perhaps
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15:29 Philip
yeah
15:30 Philip
since Flying_O was just autovoiced in #townspeople
15:54 Philip
lalala
18:13 @lmm
so I hear. I thought I had done
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Day changed Fri 09 Mar 2007
08:32 Cesy
Hi corpses
Cesy
So who's dead and who's mafia now?
08:35 @lmm
the only confirmed deaths are the ones on the website
@lmm
SPOILERS: mafia are colin, felicity, george, gordon, alex atkins and jake
08:36 No matches
Flying_O: No such nick/channel
08:37 Cesy
So Philip was wrong in his theory about Adam and Xanth
@lmm
which was?
08:39 adam: No such nick/channel
adam: There was no such nickname
adam WHOWAS info from sirc.srcf.ucam.org
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TheDuke
hello
TheDuke
muahaha and stuff, I am talking from beyond the grave n'shit
12:21 Cesy
Who killed you?
12:22 TheDuke
am I allowed to say on this?
12:23 Cesy
yup
TheDuke
I'm holding you to that
12:25 TheDuke
mostly, it was my own lack of sleep/distracted/sad mindset and not really giving a fuck any more (had a lot on my mind from a conversation just prior to the death) but also it was a very efficient Mafia move... Jake was hiding in the bushes outside, George was in the bar, and they were talking on the phone... I can't think of any way I'd have avoided it even if I'd been arsed to do so
14:33 Philip
I don't think I had a theory about adam and Xanth
14:34 Philip
also, I saw Yeti on my way to the CUSFS lunch, so whoever killed her did so somewhere near the centre of town, I would think
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09:30 @lmm
SPOILERS: yeah, you had pretty much no chance
@lmm
hmm, since this is the spoiler channel maybe I don't need to bother with spoiler tags
09:31 Pufferfish
yeah
09:32 Pufferfish
I said to Colin yesterday afternoon "look, if you're mafia I'm royally screwed, so I lose nothing by assuming you aren't and planning to kill Jake with you"
Pufferfish
and he was mafia, and I was screwed.
09:39 @lmm
fair enough
09:40 Pufferfish
Felicity turning out to be as well was icing on the cake :)
09:44 @lmm
I was interested to see what would happen since I took it as read that some concerned citizens would attack to get Jake, but apparently not
10:08 Pufferfish
I expected so too
Pufferfish
but they probably wouldn't have known that you go in the back.
10:31 @lmm
I suppose
10:32 Pufferfish
that said, I'd have told them
Pufferfish
ah well
20:04 Pufferfish
19:57 < Beetle> uh-oh
Pufferfish
19:57 < Beetle> one of the townspeople now knows who i am
Pufferfish
19:57 < Beetle> don't talk to me in public
Pufferfish
just in case anyone didn't see :)
20:48 Philip
ololol
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22:10 Philip
Hello BadgerGirl
23:19 TheDuke
Jake appears to be dead
TheDuke
despite being mafia
23:41 BadgerGirl
Xanth and adam claim to have lurked the station and killed him
BadgerGirl
did you all get killed by Jake then?
23:47 TheDuke
yeah
TheDuke
well, jake and george
Day changed Sun 11 Mar 2007
00:08 Philip
Except for me ;)
00:41 BadgerGirl
sorry Philip
00:42 BadgerGirl
I got done by Stephen McCann
BadgerGirl
I knew he was after me, and I told Rev that while I was alive, so who knows?
00:56 Philip
Yet more townsperson vs. townsperson action then
00:57 Philip
since Steve is not mafia
01:15 BadgerGirl
What makes you think he isn't?
BadgerGirl
Esp. as he has been after me since Wednesday?
01:16 BadgerGirl
or possibly thursday, i've lost track now
Philip
Since lmm told us who the mafia were
Philip
08:35 <@lmm> SPOILERS: mafia are colin, felicity, george, gordon, alex atkins and jake
01:18 BadgerGirl
ah
BadgerGirl
fair enough
BadgerGirl
so why was stephen so keen to kill me?
01:19 BadgerGirl
most kills are accounted for as mafia aren't they?
Philip
I think he figured that you killed me, and so decided that you must be mafia
BadgerGirl
I guess so
BadgerGirl
meh, maybe I shouldn't have killed you
BadgerGirl
but since there is no way to prove someone *isn't* mafia...
Philip
I think all but our two deaths are mafia kills (except those of mafia)
01:21 BadgerGirl
I could have sworn Stephen said he was mafia to me
BadgerGirl
I would have thought the mafia would have gone faster than they have
01:23 Philip
I think the mafia have a massive advantage in that you can only tell who they are if they screw up, whereas they know everyone else's status
BadgerGirl
totally
01:24 BadgerGirl
I was thinking, maybe if the villagers were in like "family" groups you could know a few villagers who definitely weren't mafia
BadgerGirl
that way you'd have at least a few allies
Philip
I think the way to play as a townsperson is to trust someone
BadgerGirl
oops
Philip
that way, if you are right, and they are a townsperson, you profit, and can help each other out
01:25 BadgerGirl
the odds are fairly good for that I suppose
BadgerGirl
I figrued I could survive on my own. How wrong I was.
Philip
and if not, you may end up dead, but the price is not too high, as there are far more townspeople, and so you are expendible
BadgerGirl
true
01:26 BadgerGirl
hard to play as a team when you don't know who's on it though :)
Philip
yeah :)
BadgerGirl
I was annoyed at dying today coz I saw Stephen, thought, not sure that's him
01:27 BadgerGirl
*and then took my eyes off him completely and stood chatting with no hands on weapons or anything*
BadgerGirl
surprisingly, I was shot in the face about 30 seconds later
BadgerGirl
keeping your guard up is bloody difficult
01:28 BadgerGirl
Everytime I've died I haven't seen it coming
BadgerGirl
I hope you weren't too annoyed to die on the first morning
01:29 Philip
nah, I was happy that I had done my part by letting everyone know Jake was mafia
Philip
since he launched his failed attack on me earlier in the morning
01:30 BadgerGirl
gd gd
BadgerGirl
if only I'd dragged your body all the way to the CMS
01:31 Philip
hehe :)
Philip
yeah
Philip
w
Philip
-w
01:32 BadgerGirl
right, to bed i think
Philip
I concur
Philip -> bed
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TheKremlin
so, I hear the first time in the game I properly let my guard down as I can't be arsed is the only time anyone is actually there.
02:40 TheKremlin
about usual then :)
08:07 @lmm
hmm, I hope rev's not playing for the mafia
08:58 Pufferfish
A clear corrupting influence there
Pufferfish
I assume he and Felicity must have some sort of social arrangement allowing them to see each other...
09:07 No matches
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10:36 Maz
You don't think she's just been sneaky and hasn't killed him yet to avoid suspicion?
10:37 @lmm
I don't know
Pufferfish
although, innocent townsperson corrupted by seductions of his girlfriend is cliched enough :P
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12:49 Pufferfish
so, er, how do people know Gordon is EVIL MAFIA?
Pufferfish
Did I miss Alex Atkins revealing it?
12:52 TheDuke
gordon is EVIL MAFIA - jake told me
Philip
They know because he broke a social no-kill to kill Lauren and Enemy last night
Philip
with several players knowing who was present at this meeting
12:53 Philip
and Chasbo there, who confirmed it
Pufferfish
I see. Sensible there.
12:54 Pufferfish
I knew anyway because Jake told me at TT, but...
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_3dge_
:o
13:11 Philip
Hello _3dge_
13:14 Philip
I hear you decided that it was a good idea to attack Rev and felicity
13:17 _3dge_
yES.
_3dge_
I actually hit Rev.
13:18 _3dge_
He was just a little bit faster.
_3dge_
I was stupid though.
_3dge_
Shouldn't have chased.
_3dge_
Should have used the superior range I had.
TheDuke
I still think it's a brave effort
TheDuke
well done
_3dge_
I haf an xp240, he had an rbg
_3dge_
ty
_3dge_
s/haf/had
_3dge_
I will get him next time >:D
Pufferfish
that sounds like Rev is playing with the mafia then...
13:19 _3dge_
no, hes townsperson apparently
_3dge_
(as was I)
Pufferfish
I know
Pufferfish
by "playing with" I mean "on their side despite not being one"
13:20 _3dge_
I doubt it.
_3dge_
As I pulled my gun first. �_�
13:22 lmm catches a wrong name on a report. Putting reports on my local webserver first was a *good* idea
Philip
it usually is
TheDuke
rev is definitely not killing felicity
Pufferfish
and felicity is definitely not killing rev...
13:23 Philip
Perhaps he doesn't know she is mafia
Philip
She hasn't killed anyone, I don't think
TheDuke
well, she's not killing him then
Pufferfish
it's not all that obvious, apart from that she didn't die at TT
Philip
indeed
Pufferfish
and I did
Philip
that is the one think that I think sticks out
TheDuke
lol Tottenham 3 chelscum 0
Philip
that Colin and felicity survived TT
TheDuke
1*
TheDuke
T 3 C 1
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TheDuke
hello steve
Enemy
hello all
Philip
and didn't say anything about it on #townspeople afterwards
Pufferfish
TheDuke: 3-1 not 3-0
Philip
as to why they survived
13:24 Philip
hello Enemy
Pufferfish
you'd think they'd catch on, wouldn't you.
TheDuke
pufferfish - I editted above
TheDuke
bloody chelsum
TheDuke
chelscum*
13:27 @lmm
irta checksum
13:28 Enemy
so, who are the mafia then?
Enemy
do we know?
Pufferfish
Jake, Colin, Felicity, Alex, Gordon and... someone else I've forgotten
13:29 @lmm
george davies
13:30 Enemy
ooooh, i was right about Colin
Enemy
fantastic
13:31 Pufferfish
his surviving TT kinda implied it
13:32 Philip
George
Philip
he is the other mafioso
14:28 BadgerGirl
Must have sucked to be you at TT Pufferfish and discovered everyone else was mafia
14:29 Pufferfish
*grin*
Pufferfish
I was speaking to Colin a few hours before, and said "look, if you're mafia I'm screwed so I have nothing to lose by asking you to help me kill Jake"
Pufferfish
and then he shot me
BadgerGirl
oh dear
Pufferfish
I wasn't expecting to survive the night anyway
Pufferfish
Jake knows I can't run away
14:30 BadgerGirl
True. should have taken a few CPSes :)
Pufferfish
I nearly did. It wouldn't have helped though
BadgerGirl
Yeah. Still, unlucky.
14:31 Pufferfish
it was a case of trust Colin and possibly die, or not trust him and definitely die
BadgerGirl
Was a good plan indeed. I got killed by McCann, he must have decided I killed Philip/
Pufferfish
Felicity turning out to be mafia as well just made it even more funny
Pufferfish
so... who *did* kill Philip?
BadgerGirl
me
BadgerGirl
so he was right, but just because I killed him, doesn't make me mafia O:-)
14:32 Pufferfish
why did you kill him?
BadgerGirl
I just figured having an MA in your lectures was a bad idea
BadgerGirl
and I like killing
BadgerGirl
and there is no way to prove non-mafianess
14:33 TheDuke
badgergirl - well done
BadgerGirl
on reflection, I should have trusted him
TheDuke
nah
TheDuke
you have to kill the dook
BadgerGirl
It was quite a fun kill - I sneaked through the research area of the lab to arrive behind philip, and he was talking to my friends about where I might be when I shot him
14:34 Philip
oh, I thought you went through the lecture theatre or something
Philip
rather than through the main bit of the lab
14:35 BadgerGirl
no, I went outside to the other door, up the stairs, then through the research area to ground south
Philip
ah, because the last time you saw me, I was in the cafe
BadgerGirl
was worried my friends would give me away, was making frantic ignore me motions
BadgerGirl
indeed, so i figured coming out of that door was the best ambush point
14:36 Philip
Stephen saw you sneaking about, but decided not to tell me, in case it was someone else you were trying to kill
14:37 BadgerGirl
what was stephen doing in the lab?
BadgerGirl
no wonder he wanted to kill me
Philip
not McCann
Philip
Stephen Williams
BadgerGirl
who's that?
14:38 BadgerGirl
one of your friends in our year?
Philip
yes
BadgerGirl
ah i see
Philip
he worked with me in the summer
BadgerGirl
yeah, i was quite suprised to make it all the way to you without an alarm being raised
BadgerGirl
oh, i know the one. Terrible with names I am
14:39 BadgerGirl
who killed Lauren and McCann last night?
Philip
Chronos
Philip
(Gordon Ball)
BadgerGirl
ah K
BadgerGirl
does McCann have a playing g/f, and is she mafia? I'm totally confused about who's who
14:40 Philip
he does, and she is not
14:42 BadgerGirl
ah fair enough
14:43 BadgerGirl
how's life anyway?
14:45 Philip
Life is good
14:48 TheKremlin
I shall note that rev is not killing felicity 'cause they have a no-kill till monday
TheKremlin
(lamers)
14:49 BadgerGirl
hehe
BadgerGirl
at least not a permanent no kill
14:50 TheKremlin
indeed.
TheKremlin
yay for townsperson fratricide, anyway :)
14:51 BadgerGirl
yeah, good for the mafia :)
14:52 BadgerGirl
I don't suppose McCann saw you (TheKremlin) on thursday about 11 did he?
TheKremlin
hmmm
14:53 TheKremlin
thursday
TheKremlin
circa 11
TheKremlin thinks
BadgerGirl
yeah
TheKremlin
I had lectures till 11, so would have been leaving them right then
BadgerGirl
someone alledged you had a lecture at the CMS then
TheKremlin
not in the CMS
TheKremlin
New Museums
BadgerGirl
ah
BadgerGirl
that explains it then
TheKremlin
this was about when I shot Sam Borin (who is being lame and disputing that he didn't get hit by the main beam of the CPS shot)
14:54 BadgerGirl
that's a bit lame. and once you've been dead for days, you're dead whatever happens
14:55 TheKremlin
apparently lmm was waiting for us two to agree the details, without telling us this :s
TheKremlin
he argued a bit at the time, then seemed to concede that the backs of his legs were a bit damp
TheKremlin
but apparently this was meant to mean "not damp enough for a kill", and he argued with lmm afterwards
TheKremlin
we on the scene assumed this to mean "I'm dead"
14:56 BadgerGirl
hmm
TheKremlin
I can see no way of persuading him otherwise now
TheKremlin
'cause he is utterly lame and a poor loser.
BadgerGirl
did he return fire or have a weapon of sufficient range available?
Pufferfish
well, someone's got to make a ruling
14:57 TheKremlin
he had no weapon on him. He had just turned to run.
TheKremlin
(well, drew no weapon)
TheKremlin
and since I had a CPS1000...
Pufferfish
bah, he should so be dead.
TheKremlin
this is my view.
Pufferfish
you'd have only shot him more if you weren't certain
BadgerGirl
he is dead
TheKremlin
well, he could have outrun me.
BadgerGirl
you just didn't want to soak him
TheKremlin
(and george)
Pufferfish
I don't know how fast he can run
14:58 BadgerGirl
you'd hit his legs, he couldn't run any more
Philip
TheKremlin: He can run rather quickly
Pufferfish
however, I do know that TheKremlin can outrun most of TT
TheKremlin
Pufferfish: really quite fast.
Philip
He escaped me in mayweek by running very quickly
TheKremlin
faster than me usually, although during the brief bit when he started to run before stopping at our cry of having hit him, I was in the short term keeping up.
14:59 TheKremlin
And I've kept level with him in a chase before - but in that incident while I was carrying a heavy gun he was carrying an instrument, so hardly counts.
BadgerGirl
he's been counted dead since thursday right?
15:00 @lmm
he's been alive but being asked not to attack others or pass on information until it's resolved
BadgerGirl
oh right
15:02 TheKremlin
last contact I had from him was the email saying "I meant by my legs being a bit damp that they weren't as damp as the shot that you fired once I stopped that hit the back of my head, which didn't count 'cause I only stopped because you claimed to have hit me, so it wasn't a proper hit"
TheKremlin notes the huge difference between a diffuse long-range CPS shot and a close-up soaking.
15:03 Pufferfish
how wet were his legs?
TheKremlin
I didn't see very well as he was stood looking at me, but damp for definite.
15:04 BadgerGirl
so surely the leg hit means he could no longer run?
TheKremlin
to be honest, I was only paying so much attention as I assumed he had just admitted to being dead.
@lmm
no, limb shots are lethal now
15:05 BadgerGirl
lmm: oh yeah, i did read the rules, honest
15:11 TheDuke
stupid rules
TheDuke
I like Limb Hits
15:12 Pufferfish
TheDuke: Come back to TT then
Pufferfish
we have limb hits there ;)
Philip
I also like limb hits
TheKremlin knows this all too well...
TheDuke pledges to use limb hits in any minigames he's allowed to umpire
TheDuke
(or maingames? please?)
TheDuke
:P
15:13 _3dge_
(No, not yet.)
TheDuke
not yet, no
TheDuke
I want to play at least mayweek, mich and lent
_3dge_
Perhaps I will CTF next time.
TheDuke
you should
TheDuke
it rocks
_3dge_
Perhaps I will also grope TheKremlin/
TheDuke
ditto
TheKremlin
:o
TheDuke
pufferfish: your limb hit rules suckzor
15:14 _3dge_
Actually ,for maingames, Its good.
_3dge_
simplifies disputes.
_3dge_
and there are a lot of them
TheDuke
removes strategy and fun, though
_3dge_
Nah, more strategy in ... not getting hit at all. :p
_3dge_
Fun, debatable.
_3dge_
I dislike arguming over kills.
_3dge_
arguing*
15:15 _3dge_
(We all should use water weapons)
@lmm
I hope you were being deliberately humourous
_3dge_
(With respect too?
_3dge_
to *
15:16 @lmm
the current disputed water kill
@lmm
which we have just been discussing
15:17 Enemy
lol
15:20 TheDuke
oh, god... the Jesus Cheerleaders are watching a match near my room... :S
TheKremlin
I suspect this one is going to come down to an umpirical decision, as he's far too lame to back down and I'm not letting him get away with this, especially given last time he tried something like this on me.
15:21 TheDuke
who was this?
Philip
Boz
TheKremlin
(samuel borin)
15:22 TheDuke
ah
@lmm
I've just emailled to suggest a duel, since if you can't agree on what happened that's the only way I can see to resolve it
15:23 Philip
I CPSed him once. He got annoyed when Nick did the same a few moments later, and threw an RBG at him
TheKremlin
right.
TheKremlin
with the weapons we had at the time?
TheKremlin
>:D
Philip
ololol
TheKremlin
(and an impartial hit-observer)
Philip
equal weapon duels are the way to go
@lmm
heh, no, some agreed set of weapons
Philip
unless you are not confident of your abilities? ;)
TheKremlin
hehe
15:24 TheKremlin
I'd far prefer a water-duel
@lmm
and yes, observers are important; I'll do it if a time can be found when I'm free (which will be hard)
TheKremlin
since I detest rbg-fighting, really.
@lmm
maybe you should duel to decide who gets to pick weapons for the duel
15:27 TheKremlin
I would prefer either water, or failing that, swords.
@lmm
haha
Philip
offer choice to him, so you can take the moral high-ground ;)
TheKremlin
*grin*
15:28 TheDuke
tell him it's going to be with RBGs, then bring a CPS
TheKremlin
I *could* do a Revelation, yes.
15:30 @lmm
the umpire will have a bigger cps for anyone who tries this
TheKremlin
damn you :-(
15:31 Pufferfish
TheKremlin: wanna borrow my 3k?
TheDuke
:P
TheDuke
game
TheKremlin
Pufferfish: perhaps. I haven't used one so have no idea how good they are.
TheKremlin
I like my 'k
@lmm
I'd outrange it, though being me I'm not sure I could run away fast enough for this to matter
Pufferfish
the 3k's main advantage is that the water is on your back not in your hand, so it's really manoeuvrable.
15:32 TheKremlin
fair enough.
@lmm
3k aiui actually has surprisingly bad range
15:34 Pufferfish
my one's pretty good, though it's a bit old now
_3dge_ waves an original 2k around.
TheKremlin
nice
_3dge_
(A figurative one)
_3dge_
(Real ones sell for US$150+)
TheKremlin
indeed.
15:35 TheKremlin goes to have lunch and then do stuff, anyway.
Pufferfish
the other advantage to the 3k is that the tank is bigger
15:44 TheKremlin
point.
TheKremlin
although it probably fires a bulkier shot.
19:31 _3dge_
I died/
_3dge_
:(
_3dge_
I will rise again
_3dge_
We should play a vampire minigame sometime.
_3dge_
1 player is vampire
19:32 _3dge_
everyone he kills is resurrected as a vampire
Pufferfish
umm
_3dge_
timed game
Pufferfish
you know we've done that twice, right?
_3dge_
Nope./
_3dge_
I didn't.
_3dge_
:p
Pufferfish
you do now
_3dge_
(My nubness shows here.)
_3dge_
aww.
_3dge_
It looks like it would be fun.
Pufferfish
it was vampires vs werewolves, but basically what you said
_3dge_
Ah.
19:33 _3dge_
The one I played before was vampires vs town. survival.
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Raccoon
zomg
Raccoon
etc.
15:37 @lmm
indeed
Lauren
patacoon
Raccoon
I'm allowed to say how I died here, right?
@lmm
yes
Raccoon
basically
Raccoon
revelation can't read his girlfriend
Raccoon
so it's all his fault
Raccoon
>:(
15:38 Lauren
did felicity do her famous bike attack on you?
Raccoon
nah
Raccoon
she shot me outside lectures
Enemy
hahaha
Lauren
not quite as exciting
Raccoon
no
Raccoon
kinda lame really
Raccoon
although I did get a shot off
Lauren
game
Raccoon
but I was all a bit "whuu..."
Raccoon
because I'd had no sleep
Raccoon
she was in the power 5, too
Pufferfish
I hear Rev and Felicity had a no kill until today...
Raccoon
really?
15:39 Raccoon
ffs
Pufferfish
this is now third hand
Pufferfish
but if true I am not all that happy with them
Raccoon
basically it was a combination of me being very tired, and revelation having been convinced enough of her innocence
Raccoon
and then by the time I realised what was going on it was a bit late to run away/make sure I shot her first
Pufferfish
which was quite impressive considering that I died at TT and she didn't...
15:40 Raccoon
who killed you? jake?
Pufferfish
no
Pufferfish
Colin
Raccoon
ah
Pufferfish
but obviously jake was going to try to take the blame
Raccoon
so the remainder of the mafia is george, alex, felicity and gordon?
Pufferfish
I thought that me being the only death of the TTers would make things a bit more obvious, but apparently not
Pufferfish
and yes, it is.
15:41 Raccoon
we were a bit suspicious of colin
Raccoon
basically we were going to try and get gordon and alex today
15:42 Raccoon
and george if we could
Raccoon
but then it turns out revelation's judge of character sucks
Pufferfish
I don't think he had any reason to suspect her.
Raccoon
hmmm
Raccoon
maybe
Raccoon
or maybe not
Pufferfish
well, perhaps for not dying at TT either on Friday or Saturday
15:43 TheKremlin
yeah, felicity told me she was no-killed with rev till today.
Raccoon
...
Raccoon
that's retarded
TheKremlin
indeed.
15:44 Raccoon
part of the reason I was inclined to believe she was a townsperson was because neither of them had died
TheKremlin
I spent much of this game trying to take the blame for stuff.
TheKremlin
I only actually killed 3 or 4 people depending how the boz situation works out.
TheKremlin
(lamer)
Pufferfish
oh ffs, has that still not been sorted? *headdesk*
15:45 TheKremlin
argument is still going on. Is likely it'll go to duel.
TheKremlin
boz tried to argue that as I'm dead he has nothing to gain from a duel :s
Pufferfish
Correct
Pufferfish
that doesn't mean he doesn't have lots to lose...
@lmm
I was this close to replying "you have not being declared dead to gain from it"
TheKremlin
thankfully lmm was having none of this and pointed out that the duel would only ever be to decide whether he was dead or not
15:46 TheKremlin
hehe
Raccoon
but
Raccoon
how is he not dead?
TheKremlin
he is, at heart, a very sore loser
Raccoon
I thought you shot him
Raccoon
in the face
TheKremlin
only after he stopped when we called an earlier hit
Raccoon
(or so I heard)
Raccoon
well
TheKremlin
that he claims wasn't the CPS main beam
Raccoon
did you say 'discussion phase'?
TheKremlin
not in those words, no.
Raccoon
or 'ceasefire'?
TheKremlin
george just shouted "he hit you"
TheKremlin
then he stopped.
TheKremlin
then my next shot caught him in the back of the head.
Pufferfish
oh, just declare the little arse dead and be done with it...
15:47 TheKremlin
well, I am fairly sure I can out-duel him if I have to, but yeah, I'd prefer that outcome :)
Pufferfish
he didn't have to stop because Joe Random told him he was hit (though I realise it's polite)
TheKremlin
sore losers iritate me.
Raccoon
oh boz-chan
@lmm
I expect that will be how it ends, but I'm making very sure to be impartial
Raccoon
grumblegrumblebloodyrevelationgrumblegrumbleihitherfirstgrumblegrumble
Raccoon
;)
Raccoon
(not really)
15:48 Raccoon
i'm not even sure if I hit her at all with my shot, let alone if i fired before she hit me
Raccoon
but I wasn't in the mood to play detective J Doe anyway
Pufferfish
Han Shot First
Raccoon
did I say detective?
TheKremlin notes that boz probably hasn't faced CPS before. A long-range hit is rather different from a close-ranged soaking, which is what my next shot turned into.
Raccoon
I meant doctor, obviously
Raccoon
possibly
15:49 Raccoon
THE MAIN BEAM
Philip
TheKremlin: I shot Boz with a CPS
Raccoon
seriously
Raccoon
if you die to limb hits
Raccoon
you should die if you are wet
TheKremlin
Philip: ah, ok.
TheKremlin
but he rested a lot on comparing my two hits, when the first was a long-range tap-of-the-trigger, and the second was at closer range and unloaded most of the tank.
15:53 TheKremlin
so what happened earlier?
TheKremlin
are either of rev and felicity dead?
17:58 TheKremlin
as expected, atkins continues to be lame.
TheKremlin
he is and was, in fact, a liability to the mafia.
_3dge_
lol Beetle?
17:59 TheKremlin
basically, yes.
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16:02 Philip
I see the mafia have almost won
TheKremlin
oh?
Philip
well, it is 3 mafia vs. 2 townspeople now
TheKremlin
ooh
TheKremlin
excellent
16:03 TheKremlin
someone has been having fun :)
Philip
go adam
Philip
kill them all
Philip
Although the location of Xanth's death suggests he was trying to kill Paul Morris and failed
16:04 TheKremlin
indeed.
TheKremlin
the other two will have been Gordon.
Philip
well, I know Emma died to Gordon
TheKremlin
(I can see felicity having gotten rev, but gordon was the main one using knives)
TheKremlin
yes, I knew that also
Philip
felicity may have... yes
16:05 @lmm
which other two do you mean?
TheKremlin
emma and rev
Philip
Emma and Rev, presumably
Philip
lmm: Who killed Rev then? felicity or gordon?
@lmm
felicity
@lmm
taking the conkers lead
16:06 Philip
well, it was to be expected
TheKremlin
indeed.
TheKremlin
equally, adam still lives, so the townspeople have a hope.
Philip
Was it Paul who killed Xanth?
16:07 @lmm
no, that was felicity too
Philip
I see
Philip
Why were they in Girton?
Philip
oh
Philip
Was something cunning going on...
@lmm
because they were both trying to kill paul at the same time
Philip
I see
TheKremlin
heehee
TheKremlin
certainly many people thought paul was mafia
@lmm
no, apparently just coincidence
16:08 TheKremlin
nice
TheKremlin
Philip: out of pure interest, who *was* it that shot you?
Philip
BadgerGirl
TheKremlin
(the look on your face when I attacked you was priceless. Sadly, I'd lost pressure and the shot fell short. Didn't screw the gun's cap on well enough.)
@lmm
my supersecret kill graph will go up once the game ends
TheKremlin
right. such was suspected.
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Philip
Hello Revelation
TheKremlin
hi there
16:14 TheKremlin
welcome to our exalted company
Philip
Revelation: So. Did you really not suspect felicity?
TheKremlin is indeed quite amused by this
16:15 TheKremlin
so, can adam win the game on his own? *prods george to do something*
Philip
Revelation: It seems that adam is our last best hope for peace in the universe
16:23 @lmm
help me adam, you're my only hope?
16:26 Revelation
I did suspect her on the first day
16:27 Revelation
but then she did nothing suspicious so she allayed my suspicions a bit
Pufferfish
Surviving TT wasn't a clue?
Revelation
I happened to tell adam exactly when and where I was meeting her today, though
16:28 Revelation
no - the most suspicious thing was her running away when I was fighting solitude despite having a weapon at the ready at the time
Revelation
the problem is that Jake told Charles that all the other members of the mafia were nobodies
16:29 TheKremlin
yay for disinformation :)
16:30 TheKremlin
and, well, we didn't really have any "big names" per se, I suppose.
16:31 Revelation
I enjoyed this more than Wampires
Pufferfish
Wampires sucks if you start as a TP
Revelation
but I don't really like week-long survivor games, I realise
Pufferfish
as you're just waiting to be turned
Revelation
as I'm too busy/lazy to be involved properly
Revelation
no - it's lame if you wait to be turned in Wampires
16:32 Revelation
I only really played this as I was hoping to be mafia
TheKremlin
people for the most part seem to have been fairly keen this game :)
TheKremlin
and there was always me to hunt.
16:38 Raccoon
TheKremlin: you shouldn't prod george into doing anything :P
TheKremlin
really?
Raccoon
(unless your prodding is entirely independent of information you have from being dead, of course)
16:39 TheKremlin
oh, he has all the information about the gamestate he needs
TheKremlin
IE can work out who is left and what they are
TheKremlin
so if I say "go kill" he'll probably do it.
Raccoon
you still shouldn't influence the game though, surely?
16:40 TheKremlin
fair enough
Raccoon
well, that's up to lmm, really
TheKremlin
I've always seen prodding someone to be keen and go out killing as not significantly influencing a game but as encouraging fun.
TheKremlin
as long as I don't set them on someone specific
16:42 Raccoon
hmm
16:43 @lmm
I would prefer dead players to say nothing at all
16:46 Revelation
so, EoGP then
16:47 Revelation
at which Charles will do his awards
Revelation
(or else Philip will stamp his foot again)
16:48 Raccoon
we were all stamping our feet
@lmm
on which subject, if anyone has award nominations for this game then by all means send them to me
Raccoon
he just stamped his when not taking a shot
Raccoon
I vote thursday for EoGP
16:49 @lmm
since I figure we wont have much time between the end of the game and the party
Raccoon
since that gives us some time
@lmm
I can't make thursdays
Raccoon
and gives people a bit more notice
Raccoon
you llama
@lmm
indeed
Raccoon
why not?
Raccoon
CUSFS?
@lmm
well, I can't make thursday evening
@lmm
roleplaying
Raccoon
lame
Raccoon
so it has to be wednesday/
Raccoon
?
@lmm
pretty much
Raccoon
:(
16:50 @lmm
unless it was like, in the day or something crazy like that
16:51 @lmm
though even then I have a supervision 3-4, but I could turn up for an hour or two if it was like 4-7 or something
Raccoon
well I only don't want wednesday because I'm away
16:54 TheKremlin notes that alex atkins deserves some kind of tardship award for this game
16:55 Pufferfish
Just a bit.
Raccoon
hehe
Raccoon
you've all heard how he died then?
16:56 TheKremlin
not the exact details, other than attacking entropy
Raccoon
well I saw adam today
Raccoon
apparently someone in the house told them that he'd been walking up and down outside for a while
Raccoon
then as he came to the door adam opened it and took a shot but the gun didn't fire/fell short
Raccoon
he then rang the doorbell
16:57 @lmm
rofl boz
TheKremlin
...now that is hugely retarded
TheKremlin
...?
TheKremlin
what'd he do now?
Raccoon
and adam kept him talking for a while with questions like "well, can I convince you that i'm not in the mafia so you don't kill me?"
TheKremlin
hehe
Raccoon
"unless you're in the mafia"
Raccoon
"oh yes, I am in the mafia"
Raccoon
"ah, could I convince you that *i'm* in the mafia too?"
Pufferfish
"bang"?
Raccoon
"no, because I know who's in the mafia"
Raccoon
and then, yes
Raccoon
xanth had apparently snuck around and shot him in the back
16:58 Pufferfish
lol
Raccoon
but he gets points for effort
TheKremlin
well, yes.
Raccoon
I mean, what's george done this game?
TheKremlin
killed several people
2 matches: TheDuke, TheKremlin
@lmm
killed two people, and assisted with more
2 matches: TheDuke, TheKremlin
@lmm
TheKremlin was taking all the credit as part of some crazy information thing
Raccoon
ooh
Raccoon
who'd he get?
Raccoon
oh
TheKremlin
janet and TheDuke
16:59 Raccoon
presumably he got...yes
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Revelation
it might be possible to have a crazy afternoon EoGP if the weather's nice
Lauren
that sounds nice
Pufferfish
the forecast is sunny until at least Saturday
17:01 Revelation
picnic on the Backs
Lauren
profit
17:16 Raccoon
ooh, that's an idea actually
17:58 @lmm
I would condone this, as I say, something like 4-7 thursday (and I'll be a bit late and leaving a bit early)
18:13 Pufferfish
ooh, I might come to that
18:35 @lmm
alternatively, friday at a similar time would be nicely just after pirate punting
18:38 Pufferfish
people will be being chucked out by then though
18:39 @lmm
true
18:53 Raccoon
pirate punting?
Raccoon
surely I'm on enough mailing lists to have heard about that?
18:54 TheKremlin also hadn't heard about this
TheKremlin
I think there is a non-assassins event by that name
18:55 Raccoon
:O
Raccoon
scandalous
18:56 Pufferfish
I saw it linked off Cesy's facebook
19:25 Revelation
indeed, I think they've pirated us
22:40 Revelation
can a decision be made on EoGP and emailed to all players, please?
Revelation
and then someone who can should forward it to the social list
23:40 @lmm
does trinity backs allow picnicing?
23:42 Pufferfish
I think you need a Trinitarian, but I've seen people doing it
23:43 @lmm
well, I will be a Trinitarian but will be somewhat late/early leaving
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00:03 Pufferfish
hurrah for the townspeople, it seems.
00:12 Philip
well, yes and no
00:13 Philip
gordon double-killed with adam
Philip
so basically hurrah for the mafia
Philip
since it is now 2 vs. 1, with the 1 being some random Girtonian
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02:42 TheKremlin
woo for mafia :)
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08:40 Revelation
when did Boz die?
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09:44 Chronos
for reference, I was responsible for the premature deaths of Cesy, Enemy, Lauren, Emma and Adam, with whom I double killed in Churchill Bar last night
09:55 Revelation
fsvo premature
10:07 @lmm
Revelation: friday, though he wasn't actually ruled dead until some time after due to a dispute
@lmm
anyways, can you make 4-7 tomorrow on twinity backs so we have a trinitarian?
10:08 Pufferfish
It may only be a university member
Pufferfish
I've eaten lunch on there by myself without being checked, but they might come down harder on a picnic.
10:10 @lmm
I'm wondering if we shouldn't just go for queens' backs since noone seems to care about them
10:33 Raccoon
I'm fairly certain I can make 4-7 tomorrow
Raccoon
and trinity backs are nicer
10:34 @lmm
excellent, I shall email the list then
10:42 @lmm
ok, I have emailled the list, it shall need checking and approval
10:44 Revelation
Pufferfish: no, it's definitely a Trinitarian
Revelation
and yeah, I'll be there
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tania
hello all
tania
anyone here actually awake?
Pufferfish
yes
Revelation -> lecture
10:46 tania
so, is paul morris dead yet?
10:47 @lmm
nope
tania
wow
@lmm
well, I haven't received word of his death
tania
I'll be amused if in the end the mafia end up losing because they didn't kill him in time
10:48 Pufferfish
surely then they still "win" on the grounds of it being 2-1?
@lmm
no, in that case the psychic schoolgirls in giant robots arrive and everybody dies
tania
what we were told at the beginning of the game was that if both sides have players left at the end, everyone loses
Pufferfish
well yes :)
10:49 Pufferfish
but they will so claim a moral victory
tania
Pufferfish: then they can go to hell
tania
if I thought there was a moral victory to be claimed from having the greatest number of survivors at the end I wouldn't have attacked gordon when I did
10:50 tania
but I knew at that point that the only way the townspeople could win was if I killed gordon then and then felicity and george the following morning, so I had to go for it even though it was a retarded plan
Pufferfish
yup
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10:52 @lmm
this is precisely why I didn't specify any win condition other than killing all the other side
Pufferfish
oh, it makes perfect sense.
Chronos
we now seem to be left trying to eliminate a player who has forgotten he is playing
Pufferfish
yeah, that does suck a bit.
Chronos
but yes, that would be the sensible victory condition
10:53 tania
Chronos: if he's forgotten he's playing, is it not easy to eliminate him?
Chronos
possibly, yes
tania
also how do you know he's forgotten?
@lmm
he's done absolutely nothing
Chronos
I don't know, but I doubt I'm the only one to infer that
10:54 @lmm
or at least, reported absolutely nothing
lmm dusts off the giraffe with no legs award
tania
he may just be trying to stay alive
tania
has anyone here met him?
@lmm
does he even exist?
Chronos
I lurked for one of his lectures but didn't see him
10:55 Chronos
(not that that proves anything)
10:56 tania
apparently he's already left girton by half past eight yesterday
tania
but that doesn't seem that strange
Chronos
if he has to get into town for a 9am, then no
10:57 tania
well, apparently felicity turned up to lurk him at 8.45
tania
unless she was only ever there to kill xanth, I guess
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11:04 @lmm
and boom, game (reportedly) over
11:05 tania
paul killed felicity and george?
Pufferfish
:)
@lmm
heh, apparently not, george reports killing paul
tania
sux
11:07 tania wonders whether it's responsible to go to school in his state of health
tania
or whether I should try not to give all the kiddies this horrible cold
@lmm
gas mask
11:09 tania
sure
tania
that wouldn't be fucking freaky or anything
11:10 tania
but yeah, I woke up yesterday feeling like crap and then it turned out xanth and revelation were dead and I had to kill all the mafia myself
11:17 tania
Chronos: so you know how you said in your appointment for yesterday that you'd be outside the cavendish lecture theatres at 1.30 before your supervision at 2?
11:18 Chronos
yes. I was.
tania
was the supervision actually in the cavendish?
Chronos
yes, in the Rutherford building
tania
fair enough
11:19 tania
I had no clue where it would be, so I ended up just lurking the coton cycle path in the hope you'd go home that way
Chronos
hmmm, didn't see you
tania
when did you leave?
Chronos
it ended more or less at 3 and I left pretty much then
tania
that's weird
Chronos
where were you?
11:20 tania
I was watching from across the fields with the intent of running round and shooting you when you had to slow down for the corner where you come off the path onto the road
tania
possibly I just didn't recognise you, you had more hair than I remembered
11:21 Chronos
I don't slow down for that corner much and I spent the last week cycling as fast as I could ;)
tania
oh, I'm sure
tania
you'd still have had to cycle past me though
11:22 tania
unfortunately by that point all my potential accomplices were dead, so I couldn't have someone else watch the other end and tell me when you were coming
11:23 Chronos
I was expecting to be attacked in the Cavendish since I had given rather a long window and knew that people were after me by then
tania
well, I'd have lurked your supervision if I even knew which building it was in
11:27 tania
oh wow
tania
what's the deal with boz' bitching on his death report?
11:29 @lmm
whilst I normally don't allow dead players to give reports, I made an exception; if he wants that up there he can have it
tania
what was he complaining about?
lmm comes from the "give them enough rope" school of umpiring
tania
good plan
11:30 @lmm
my ruling that he was dead
tania
his counter-argument was that he was not?
11:33 @lmm
ultimately, I decided that he was dead on the grounds that a discussion phase can't be called in direct interruption of events such as being chased and shot at with a CPS, therefore jake's second shot killed him if the first didn't. He responded that if jake's first shot had hit him then the discussion phase he claims george called by claiming so wasn't interrupting anything.
11:34 @lmm
the logic by which this makes him alive escapes me, considering that if jake's first shot hit him he was dead from it
tania
you're right, that doesn't actually make any sense
11:35 Chronos
I hear there was a main-beam argument worthy of Dr J Doe too
tania
oh ffs
@lmm
mm, that was about the first shot
tania
this is why we should abolish cps
11:36 tania
also discussion phases, because it seems you can't trust people not to be idiots about them
@lmm
I was trying to get agreement on that for a while which was why it took so long, hadn't looked into the second part enough (since the players didn't seem to be arguing) to realise it was irrelevant
Pufferfish
umm, but George didn't call a discussion phase
Pufferfish
George said "he hit you"
11:38 tania
basically everything relating to discussion phases and talking about who shot who should be entirely obvious and non-controversial, but as soon as you write rules about it people somehow become raging idiots
11:42 Pufferfish
Like most of assassins, really.
11:50 tania
yeah, basically
12:07 Raccoon
haha
Raccoon
lol boz
Raccoon
(I just read his 'report')
12:08 Pufferfish
loloboz
12:09 Raccoon
so
Raccoon
I hear lmm isn't impartial
@lmm
nor rational
12:10 Pufferfish
Obviously this entire channel isn't impartial :)
2 matches: TheDuke, TheKremlin
@lmm
tbf we probably all know and love TheKremlin more than him
12:11 Pufferfish
well yes
Pufferfish
this wouldn't be difficuly
Pufferfish
but at the same time, he was so clearly dead.
Raccoon
I think discussion phases are a bit silly
12:12 Raccoon
but I also thought people were sufficiently autistic to only think they're in a discussion phase if someone has very clearly said it and all parties have agreed, etc.
12:13 @lmm
I am in favour of discussion phases on the whole, because if people can agree what happened at the scene it's so much easier
Raccoon
hmm
Raccoon
yes
Revelation
basically, lol Boz
12:14 Raccoon
I suppose it's more a case of...
Raccoon
yes
Revelation
it's not the first time
Revelation
nor the second time
tania
when I take over assassins and remake it to my own design people will be dead for either two days or the length of time it takes to get them to agree on the details of the incident, whichever is longer
12:15 @lmm
doesn't that just mean the asshats get the kills
tania
yes, but then I'll go round and leave dead animals in their beds
12:17 tania
also this is all based around the idea that more of the fun in assassins should come from doing stuff and less of it from looking at your kill record afterwards
12:19 tania
damn, now I really have to decide whether I should go to school
12:20 Pufferfish
Do yo have to see these kiddies again after you've infected them all?
tania
they'll presumably be better by next week, right?
12:21 tania
I wouldn't be bothered by skipping it except I missed the last two wednesdays because there were school open days so I haven't seen them for ages
12:37 Xanth [~awr26@hbb-87-81-240-45.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #corpses
Xanth
Took yout time.
Xanth
your
Xanth
Not that it matters now that the game's over.
12:42 Raccoon
ah, did felicity get paul then?
12:43 Xanth
Well, adam said that lmm had said that George had said that Paul was dead.
12:44 Pufferfish
:)
Raccoon
lame
Raccoon
but hardly unexpected
12:46 @lmm
sorry, I was sure I'd invited you already
Xanth
Nope, not until 7:30am this morning.
12:47 @lmm
and put you on the access list if not, but clearly I hadn't
13:22 Revelation
so is the game officially over or not?
13:30 @lmm
it is not; when it is over such will appear on the website
13:31 @lmm
for practical purposes it is over, however
Revelation
well I ask because Felicity is wandering around trying to kill him still
13:32 @lmm
I think I'd better let her, just in case he claims he wasn't killed
13:46 @lmm
(bah, I hate having to deal with the possibility that players might be tards)
13:57 tania
WELCOME TO UMPIRING
13:58 @lmm
indeed
14:02 Channel topic is: Dead villagers tell no tales
14:03 lmm [~lmm@hmd401.trin.cam.ac.uk] has changed topic to "Dead villagers tell no tales | Game reportedly over, umpire awaiting confirmation from final victim"
14:21 Chronos
for anyone who was trying to find it, the secret mafia channel was #higgsboson
14:22 @lmm
are the logs going up anywhere for general amusement?
Lauren
Chronos: geek
Chronos
I'm not sure we kept any
14:24 Philip
fail
14:25 Chronos
although I can scrollback the entire history so I might make a log
Raccoon
do it
Xanth
We just assumed that you wouldn't be daft enough to have one on the same damn server until Beetle showed otherwise.
Chronos
well, given that supposedly secret channels have been by logging made less secret before...
14:26 Chronos
there have always been secret channels on kern when assassins has been played
Chronos
some of them even stayed secret
Xanth
This doesn't make them a good idea.
Philip
lol #s5
Philip
or whatever it was
14:30 @lmm
?
Raccoon
one of the iterations of the many 'secret' lolmaf channels
14:36 Chronos
there was #p5a, then #s5, then #za11 and various others
Chronos
all named after rooms in which members of the mafia lived
@lmm
heh
Raccoon
it was genius
14:37 Philip
it amused me when Maz caught on to this at the SoGP of Mich 05
Philip
and joined in the middle of the SoGP
Philip
to much amusement
Pufferfish
where the hell is za11?
Raccoon
christ's
Chronos
Christ's
Philip
Christs's
Raccoon
Za staircase is a bit crazy
Raccoon
it was where alex pavlaki lived
Raccoon
when we had the SWAT raid of doom
Raccoon
we spent a *long* time looking for it
14:38 Pufferfish
"oops, we ran out of letters"
Philip
#shortband
Philip
of "so, olololol logging" fame
Pufferfish
#shortband was a police channel once upon a time
Chronos
Chronos
not that there is anything particularly interesting there
14:39 Pufferfish
11:42 <@Chronos> hopefully felicity will deal with Rev at some point
Pufferfish
game game game
Chronos
deal or no deal?
14:40 Raccoon
we probably need to give the more experienced players a day or
Raccoon
two to get less paranoid or we're going to be making suicide
Raccoon
runs
Raccoon
hehe
14:42 Raccoon
Chronos: how could you have turned my attack into you killing me, ooi?
Raccoon
a clever run-around, or just if you'd realised you had the high ground
Chronos
Raccoon: stopped running round the first or second corner and waited for you to rush onto me knife
Raccoon
(giving a +5)
Raccoon
ah
Raccoon
hang on
Chronos
although I didn't stop to see if you were actually following me
Raccoon
up the stairs or down the stairs?
Raccoon
heh
Raccoon
it's suicide to chase someone up a flight of stairs
Raccoon
especially into unfamiliar territory
14:43 Chronos
yes, Keynes is quite a maze
Chronos
the reason I came from that direction was that I was expecting to be attacked and so came from a direction with an escape route
14:44 TheKremlin
better know now, of course, from when we held indoor-CTF there.
Raccoon
Chronos: yeah, we weren't sure how serious business you were being
Raccoon
plus you turned up at *just* the wrong moment
Chronos
where you were wouldn't have been a good place for a gunfight even if I was better armed
14:45 Raccoon
basically
Raccoon
it's all your fault for being a big cheat mccheaterson and being 2 minutes late
Raccoon
>:|
14:46 Chronos
terrible behaviour on my part, yes
tania
when did he turn up?
tania
just after the point where xanth and I saw raccoon and ran away?
14:47 Raccoon
yeah
Raccoon
it was your fault too
Raccoon
>:|
14:48 Xanth
By which you mean had you not walked in we would have been fine ;(.
Raccoon
heh
14:50 tania
this mafia log is exciting
tania
jake keeps saying he's going to kill me in it
14:51 TheKremlin
well, I was tempted to try a couple of times
TheKremlin
then never got round to it
14:52 tania
shame
tania
only one person tried to kill me all game, and he mucked it up
tania
mostly by failing to notice that the person next to me on the player list had the same address
14:53 @lmm
oh alex
14:54 Chronos
theres a bit in the log when he refuses to believe the rest of us are mafia
14:55 tania
yeah, I noticed that
tania
although sadly when he knocked on my door claiming to be here to kill me because he was mafia, he didn't believe me when I said I was mafia too
14:57 tania
TheKremlin: oh, hey, when did you leave your house on saturday morning?
14:58 tania
also, who killed badgergirl?
Lauren
Steve
tania
huh
14:59 Lauren
he thought he was mafia
Xanth
00:26 <@TheKremlin> xanth, I feel, needs to die mainly for being irritating.
Xanth
;(
tania
:(
tania
Lauren: well, it was a fair guess
tania
although we'd been sekritly told by charles that he wasn't
15:02 Raccoon [~theraccoo@hmpw36.trin.cam.ac.uk] has quit IRC:
TheKremlin
tania: between 9:40 and 9:45, IIRC.
tania
hmm
tania
by bike?
TheKremlin
nah, I ran
15:03 tania
hmm
TheKremlin
why?
TheKremlin
were you trying to lurk my house?
tania
yeah, I saw a guy I thought was you leave your house at about 9.20, followed him for a while, realised he wasn't you and then waited down a sidestreet of castle hill
tania
does your house have a cunning back exit or something?
TheKremlin
no
15:04 TheKremlin
I walked right out the door
TheKremlin
(well, I may have taken the side route but that still leads out the front)
tania
I assume if you'd run past me while I was walking down castle hill you'd have noticed, right?
TheKremlin
I imagine so, but I do have lapses of inattention from time to time
TheKremlin
I was carrying a LARP sword in my bag
tania
hmm
TheKremlin
was sticking several feet up above my head
TheKremlin
can't have missed it
15:05 tania
no idea how I missed you, then
tania
incidentally, your house is a royal fucking pain to lurk
15:06 TheKremlin
yes
TheKremlin
yes it is
TheKremlin
:)
TheKremlin
also, not sure how I missed you, given that I checked all the plausible lurking-spots
tania
I wasn't very hidden
tania
I was up that sidestreet by the maharajah
15:07 TheKremlin
ah. ok, that's not right outside the house so I might plausibly have missed you
tania
oh, sure
TheKremlin
I was on the other side of the road to you, IIRC.
tania
when I was lurking the house I was at the corner of storey's way
TheKremlin
fair enough
15:08 TheKremlin
yeah, I'm normally fairly careful about people doing stuff like that
tania
but the view from there is crap, so I was mostly hoping you'd be carrying the cps again or something
TheKremlin
nah, was carrying a smaller water gun
TheKremlin
max-d 2000 under the left shoulder, my normal combat load.
15:10 TheKremlin
equally, the LARP sword was somewhat visible.
15:11 TheKremlin
most days I left early to take an odd route to lectures. That was the one day I didn't/
tania
maybe I dozed off
15:12 TheKremlin isn't sure if he'd have moved away or gone on the attack if he'd spotted you
tania
um, if you'd spotted me, I'd certainly have run the hell away
TheKremlin
fair enough :)
15:13 tania
if nothing else, because I presumed you'd be carrying a water weapon
TheKremlin
indeed.
Pufferfish
tania: way to stroke his ego there :P
tania
and I can't be having with getting wet
TheKremlin
I never go out without one, really.
TheKremlin
(when live)
tania
Pufferfish: I'm just trying to set a good example for the little assassins
15:14 tania
if someone sees you, you've already done it wrong, so run away
Pufferfish
what, JAKE'S BEARD MIGHT EAT YOU? :)
TheKremlin will usually disengage if spotted, but might plausibly in some situations not do so
TheKremlin
eg if you want to make them think you're lurking for someone else
Pufferfish
I should not be losing the game on the word disengage.
tania
no you should not
15:15 TheKremlin
or have the firepower to win an engagement and think you can trap them
TheKremlin
my backup plan for getting Pufferfish was literally to catch her somewhere without too much cover, carry a CPS and run her into the ground as she probably couldn't have gotten away.
tania
you meanie
15:16 Chronos
my plan for pretty much the whole game was to be armed with knives only and run away if I couldn't make a surprise attack
tania
that's a good plan
TheKremlin
sometimes being unsubtle can be useful. I've had several hits where the plan has been to scare someone into a hidden accomplice
Chronos
since a knife usually seems as good as an RBG if you have complete surpris
tania
although in the end I wimped out and took an rbg
TheKremlin likes his cut-down rbg :)
Chronos
I took TheKremlin's handle-less one when he donated it
15:17 tania
I could have knifed TheKremlin, I guess
tania
I couldn't have knifed you, but that was a totally artless attempt anyway
TheKremlin
given that I was paying zero attention, yes.
@lmm
and you would have avoided testing the umpire's immortality
tania
oh, incidentally, *were* felicity or colin the crowd of people with you?
tania
*in the crowd
15:18 Chronos
at the formal?
Chronos
no
tania
tania: no, when I killed jake
@lmm
no, nowhere near
TheKremlin
they were not
tania
argh, not me, Chronos
tania
fair enough
@lmm
the most phearsome other person there was michael conterio
tania
michael conterio is not phearsome
15:19 tania
although I suppose I might still have run away from him
15:20 TheKremlin was a bit scared to encounter Richard Manns at the ADC when after TheDuke
15:21 tania
is richard manns phearsome?
TheKremlin
hehe
TheKremlin
depends on the attractiveness of your mother
Chronos
only to MILFs, yes
TheKremlin
but he could have warned people and/or given away my associate's mafia status
tania
I'm just not gonna ask
15:22 tania
which associate was that?
TheKremlin
george
TheKremlin
he that actually made the kill
tania
right
tania
I forget how we knew goerge was mafia, but we did
TheKremlin
might have been atkins mucking up? or maybe just that he wasn't dead to me?
15:23 tania
I think the fact that you hadn't killed him was the main clue
tania
there was probably something else, but I forget what
15:24 tania
oh, and atkins naughtily hinted at it after he was dead, but I think we were sure by then anyway
15:25 TheKremlin
sadly, you suffered a bit from some of your better players killing one another
Chronos
not that we were complaining or anything
@lmm
I think Revelation's epic fail was what really sounded the death knell for the townspeople
tania
which particular epic fail?
15:26 tania
the one where he told me and xanth that we should definitely trust felicity?
@lmm
yes
@lmm
had he killed her rather than the other way around I suspect the townspeople would have won
15:27 tania
also if it hadn't been for that I assume she wouldn't have killed xanth
TheKremlin doesn't know precisely what went on.
15:28 No matches
@lmm
nor raccoon, possibly anyway
tania
I think xanth and felicity surprised one another, but xanth declined to kill her because revelation had been going on about how she was clearly innocent
tania
so she killed him
tania
I don't know what happened with raccoon
15:29 TheKremlin
he wasn't paying attention due to being tired, apparently
@lmm
she killed him in the CMS
2 matches: TheDuke, TheKremlin
15:30 tania
because he trusted her, or just by sneaking up on him?
@lmm
but apparently would have been avoiding her had Revelation not said she wasn't mafia
tania
ok
15:31 tania
so the moral is, everything is revelation's fault
@lmm
gunfight aiui
@lmm
well of course
TheKremlin got all his kills by stealth, except boz who happened to step out into the street at the wrong moment
15:33 tania
well, I killed two mafia and was implicated in the death of two more, so I don't feel I let the townspeople down too badly
tania
it's a shame that only xanth and I were apparently doing anything
tania
(apart from badgergirl and steve, who got it wrong)
15:34 Chronos
lmm: can we have a tree of who killed whom?
Xanth
I don't see what the point of that would be.
tania
Xanth: it's pretty
tania
even if it's useless
Xanth
All we need is the details of what happened up on the site.
15:35 TheKremlin
one thing the mafia did have was keenness.
Chronos
and a cavalier disregard for the value of human life
15:36 Xanth
I do go back to my original claim before the game started that it needed illuminati badly for balance, especially given the size of the mafia.
TheKremlin
apparently this was the second game-state rolled up.
15:37 TheKremlin
the first had only emma and raccoon as mafia.
Xanth
And yeah, the townspeople as a whole were lame.
Xanth
Which may be the fault of the mafia set chosen.
15:38 TheKremlin
the mafia set chosen wasn't all that scary to look at, but it had a lot of enthusiasm.
Pufferfish
To be fair, the mafia did play it very well, but I think they had one too many people.
Xanth
That would be part of why the random rolling until something possibly sensible comes up isn't the best of ideas of choosing the mafia.
Xanth
No, I think the mafia could have done a lot of stuff better.
TheKremlin
I shall note that alex atkins was a direct liability.
Pufferfish
Xanth: You overestimate my estimation of "very well", clearly
Chronos
yes, ideally we'd have slaughtered you all on day one
15:39 TheKremlin
we didn't play a perfect or even a close-to-perfect game. We were, nevertheless, fairly effective.
Pufferfish
Yes.
TheKremlin
in a game like this, willingness to put time in is a large factor.
@lmm
Chronos: yes, there is one prepared for when the last kill is confirmed
15:41 Xanth
You could have abused the lack of illuminati a lot better, as the main motivation of the mafia going out and being very active immediately is to reduce the odds of illuminati being any use.
15:42 tania
I'll make a pretty tree now if someone tells me who specifically killed Lottie, Emma, solitude, Yeti, Cesy and Shenton
@lmm
tania: I have the tree right here, it's fine
TheKremlin
lottie was me
TheKremlin
emma was hronos
TheKremlin
as was esy
TheKremlin
shenton was me
TheKremlin
yeti was george
@lmm
patience people
TheKremlin
solitude was revelation
Xanth
Had you attempted to leave any doubt on TheKremlin at all for any amount of time, he wouldn't have died when he did.
15:43 TheKremlin
people seemed to just assume I was mafia, so I then took the route of taking the blame for all the kills and generally making it hard to work anything else out
Xanth
As it was you basically eliminated the need for illuminati at all, as we had full information bar Felicity and a few randoms by Sunday-ish.
Xanth
Yes, we knew this.
15:44 Xanth
If by 'just assume'd you mean that there was a trail of death left in the wake of your route to lectures on the first day, and you made no attempt to cover this.
15:45 Pufferfish
Phil's death to a townsperson didn't help matters
Pufferfish
but if someone goes "Jake just shot at me" and then dies a bit later....
Xanth
Oh, and throw in Boz and the 6 mafia members thing as another complicating factor. We'd wanted there to be 5, and then Boz being an extra person who could have been mafia despite having been dead for days irritated it.
Xanth
No.
Xanth
We'd actually worked that out.
Xanth
Well.
tania
Xanth
Basically everyone knew that it must have been BadgerGirl.
tania
I imagine lmm's will be prettier
15:46 @lmm
mmm svg
Xanth
But we weren't convinced that that made him mafia necessarily, but only had this confirmed after he died by Charles.
Pufferfish
Wrong.
Pufferfish
Jake didn't kill me.
tania
oops
tania
who did?
TheKremlin
colin
tania
ok
15:47 @lmm
hmm, that is prettier than mine, which has come out all vertical and horizontal
tania
lmm: are you using dot?
@lmm
yes
@lmm
do I need to give it some extra arguments?
tania
if you want it to look like mine, use neato instead
Xanth
Plus you did larp all wrong, but you were covered by Revelation.
15:48 TheKremlin
we did larp all wrong?
Xanth
By which I mean Dave kept on saying that all three of you were mafia, but we just weren't having it because of other claims.
tania
lmm: and I suggest also supplying -Goverlap=false -Gsep=0.1
Xanth
Yeah, you were apparently all together when you killed Pufferfish or something.
15:49 TheKremlin
I was not there.
Pufferfish
nope
TheKremlin
I arrived after she died.
Pufferfish
Colin shot me early on
Pufferfish
Felicity hadn't arrived either
Xanth
Well I can't claim to have seen what happened there, but people there were certain of all three.
Pufferfish
Mostly because Felicity and COlin left alive, Ibelieve.
15:50 tania
dave kept telling us that winterlove could have told us that all three were mafia except that he forgot, or something
TheKremlin
we probably discussed stuff or something.
15:51 Pufferfish
tania: He was definitely there when I died but was his usual unobservant self.
Pufferfish
despite the sound of the supersoaker and the "you bastard" etc
15:52 TheKremlin needs to get his weaponry back, actually
15:53 TheKremlin
colin still has my xp240 and gordon still has a max-d
tania
oh, also, I believe badgergirl deserves an award for making the first ever townsperson-on-townsperson kill in a game of mafia
TheKremlin
hehe
15:54 tania
which miraculously failed to happen at all in any of the first three games
Pufferfish
TheKremlin: Had you genuinely forgotten to bring me the gun to formal, or did you know you were mafia and not want to lend it to me?
TheKremlin
I had forgotten.
TheKremlin
furthermore, colin still had it, which I had forgotten when I offered to lend it to you.
@lmm
badgergirl didn't even think philip was mafia
15:55 tania
it's not a terribly bad idea, tbh
tania
but it turned out a little badly
15:56 TheKremlin
also, I didn't know I was mafia till george arrived at the party late, having gotten his email, and told me
TheKremlin
(a bit too close for comfort to steven shenton, hence why I made sure he died so early)
TheKremlin
(he was a surprisingly easy kill, actually)
15:57 @lmm
isn't he a fresher?
Pufferfish
being a fresher does not make one an easy kill
@lmm
I think it makes it unsurprising if one is
15:58 Pufferfish
well, I knew his name before the mafia game, which suggests that he's at least done *something*
@lmm
this wasn't just his coming to tt once?
TheKremlin
he got seven kills in michaelmas
15:59 TheKremlin
was on the varsity squad.
TheKremlin
has the potential to be quite competent but was an easy kill there. Then again, not many people are any good at spotting people some distance away through van windscreens.
TheKremlin likes using vehicles as cover
16:07 TheKremlin
(as my long lurk for Pufferfish behind a van will demonstrate. She'd gone home early. Bah.)
TheKremlin
equally, the holly bush outside the ADC was pretty decent cover for a spotter I thought.
16:09 Pufferfish
TheKremlin: FWIW, there were ways I could have avoided that.
16:10 Pufferfish
though I wasn't bothering as it involves longer walks
TheKremlin
I had imagined such to be the case.
TheKremlin
it was maily a speculative hit.
TheKremlin
where were you planning to lurk TT, ooi?
Pufferfish
I was going to pretend to be a pile of armoury
TheKremlin
fair enough :)
16:11 TheKremlin
the key arriving on time for once changed stuff a bit, of course.
Pufferfish
yeah
TheKremlin
I arrived at between 7 and 7:05, I suppose, and everyone'd gone in already
17:33 lmm [~lmm@hmd401.trin.cam.ac.uk] has changed topic to "Game over"
@lmm
graph up for anyone interested, though I'm sure it's much like tania's
17:42 tania
lmm: are you going to update the news with any details of what actually happened?
tania
ooh, secret #corpses log
17:43 @lmm
tania: if people want to send in updates I will, though it won't be until when the awards go up now
tania
hang on, is the #corpses long only supposed to last until 4pm on the first day?
17:44 @lmm
nope, but it seems to be doing so. Poke Philip
tania pokes Philip
17:46 Cesy
He is currently out, but should be back around 6, unless he goes straight to dinner
18:02 Philip
I am now in
18:03 Philip checks what is going on
18:05 Philip
fail.
Philip
it appears to have just stopped logging at that point
18:07 Philip
hmm
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tania
guess no-one's been reading the #corpses logs much, then?
Philip
well, it is working now...
Philip
but a bit late, perhaps
tania
so the moral is we have no log of #corpses?
18:08 tania
shame
Philip
well, if anyone else has a log, I can put it up
Pufferfish
er, game.
tania
I do not, for obvious reasons
Philip
yeah
18:09 @lmm
I do, but it's, like, split into multiple parts and gzipped
Philip
is it in irssi format?
18:10 @lmm
not a clue

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