#townspeople IRC Log
19:34 [@Pavanne] no, sure, do come along
19:37 [@Pavanne] thanks a lot
19:38 [@Pavanne] (Er. That was to Kirika, who set up the logging)
19:41 * Kirika is slightly puzzled by the last comment as he and she are the oinly ones on channel at,m
19:41 [Kirika] when is it, Issac newton at ?8pm?
19:41 [Kirika] ah, as per #assassins topiuc, cunning
20:00 --> Snap joins
20:00 [Snap] rah
20:00 [Snap] I'm evil I am
20:00 [Snap] dead set against anything
20:01 [Snap] especially letting anyone else live
20:03 [Snap] urge to kill rising ... Rising ... fading .. RISING !
20:03 * Snap wonders what the people that actually bother to read the log will think of this
20:06 [Snap] right, I'll stop being silly, see everyone tomorrow
20:06 [Snap] :-)
20:06 <-- Snap leaves (Leaving)
21:40 --> Banichi joins
21:40 [Banichi] bwahahaha
21:51 --> Katamarino joins
22:03 * Banichi should point out that he's sweet and innocent and while not fluffy very very trustworthy
22:06 * Katamarino doesn't believe that for a minute :p
22:10 --> Snap joins
22:11 --> Scotsman joins
22:16 [Snap] arrgh, Scotsman is evil mafia
22:16 [Snap] I saw him do it
22:16 [Scotsman] eek
22:17 <-- Snap leaves (Umm, Like, Whatever)
22:21 [Katamarino] ????
22:21 [Katamarino] well, that was exciting :)
22:22 [Banichi] does anyone know what arguments you have to give nmap so that the cs doesn't notice/complain?
22:24 [Scotsman] -sF
22:25 [Scotsman] -f
22:26 [Scotsman] -F
22:27 [Scotsman] -g 80 [perhaps
22:28 [Scotsman] -n
22:28 [Scotsman] -T Sneaky
22:28 [Scotsman] [or mebbe Polite]
22:28 [Scotsman] [-T 3]
22:29 [Scotsman] should do it
22:30 [Scotsman] who are you nmapping?
22:31 [Scotsman] "nmap -sF -f -F -g 80 -n -T 3 foo.bar.com"
22:32 [Banichi] heh
22:32 [Banichi] nobody, honest ;)
22:33 [Banichi] hrrm
22:34 [Banichi] surely port 135 shouldn't be open....
22:34 [Banichi] I thought the cs were blocking it....
22:37 [Scotsman] who are you nmapping?
22:38 [Scotsman] hmm, I have 515 open
22:40 [Banichi] Katamarino
22:40 [Scotsman] :)
22:40 [Banichi] but I don't think I can do an OS id without the cs noticing
22:40 [Banichi] which is what I was after
22:40 [Scotsman] you should be able to
22:40 [Scotsman] just add -O
22:40 [Banichi] you think?
22:40 [Scotsman] yeah
22:41 [Banichi] I've turned my linux box off now anyway
22:41 [Scotsman] oh ok
22:41 [Scotsman] what's the IP?
22:41 [Banichi] 131.111.129.111 :P
22:42 [Scotsman] :)
22:42 * Banichi thinks about writing an rfc for an extension to finger
22:42 [Scotsman] hmmm, interesting...
22:43 [Scotsman] "No exact matches for OS"
22:43 [Banichi] to have, in addition to plan and project, a .clue file
22:43 [Scotsman] only 1 port open
22:43 * Banichi wonders whether Katamarino is noticing any of this...
22:43 * Scotsman should have added -v -v to his command line
22:43 [Banichi] Scotsman: erm, isn't that very bad?
22:44 [Scotsman] no, just more verbose
22:44 [Scotsman] so I know what's happening
22:44 [Banichi] I meant port 1 being open
22:44 [Scotsman] read my line again
22:44 [Scotsman] only port 135 is open
22:44 [Scotsman] apparently
22:44 [Scotsman] [only searching for known services at any rate]
22:45 [Banichi] ah, sorry
22:45 [Scotsman] :)
22:46 [Banichi] I think port 135 being open might just be the cs firewall(s)
22:46 [Scotsman] hmmm, mebbe
22:46 [Banichi] as they're blocking it between colleges
22:46 [Scotsman] why? what does it do?
22:46 [Scotsman] loc-srv ?
22:46 [Banichi] and presumably analysing traffic
22:46 [Banichi] netbios stuff
22:46 [Scotsman] ahh
22:47 [Banichi] it's the main one that the recent worms exploit
22:47 [Banichi] but you haven't been on the internet to notice....
22:47 [Scotsman] no
22:47 [Banichi] winXP has major security flaws
22:48 [Scotsman] wow, colour me stunned
22:48 [Banichi] this seemed to surprise a lot of people over the summer ;)
22:48 [Banichi] ms did have a patch out weeks before the worms appeared....
22:48 [Scotsman] wow
22:48 [Banichi] but most people just don't patch
22:48 [Scotsman] yeah
22:48 [Banichi] this caused huge problems
22:49 [Banichi] hence the draconian measures imposed by some CO's for the start of this term
22:55 * Scotsman wonders when others will get back from pubmeet
22:58 * Scotsman misses his windows and stuff
22:58 [Banichi] heh
22:59 [Scotsman] I had pretty pictures :(
22:59 [Banichi] aww
22:59 [Banichi] surely you can just get the pictures off a windows cd....
22:59 [Scotsman] no I mean like gnome windows and stuff
22:59 [Scotsman] like, X
22:59 [Scotsman] it was looking nice and stuff
22:59 [Scotsman] but I broke it
22:59 * Scotsman hates computers
23:01 * Scotsman needs a new harddrive
23:01 * Scotsman wants to dual-boot windows again
23:01 [Scotsman] mebbe
23:02 [Banichi] ah yeah
23:08 * Pavanne gets home
23:09 [Scotsman] hey Pavanne
23:09 [@Pavanne] hello
23:09 --> adam joins
23:09 [Scotsman] adam
23:09 [adam] whee
23:09 [adam] game starts at midnight, right?
23:10 [Scotsman] yup
23:10 [Scotsman] locks door
23:10 * adam will leave his open for another three-quarters of an hour, then
23:10 [Banichi] ooh
23:10 [Banichi] had better get my washing in on time ;)
23:10 [Scotsman] :)
23:11 [adam] ooh, hey, I should look at my card
23:11 [Scotsman] might be useful
23:12 * adam finds it, after worrying briefly that he'd lost it
23:12 * Pavanne finishes sending out emails
23:13 * Scotsman watches as his laptop downloads about 40 updates he's missed over the summer holidays
23:13 [@Pavanne] grrrr, sb is compsci stuff
23:13 [@Pavanne] you have your own channel for that
23:13 [@Pavanne] it may be #assassins, but...
23:13 [Scotsman] sorry
23:14 [Scotsman] It's clandestine computer stuff
23:14 * Scotsman reboots laptop
23:17 [@Pavanne] If any of you know how to get the logs to be nicely formatted, please tell me how to do it (step by step)
23:18 [Scotsman] i had a perl prog do it
23:18 [Scotsman] it's kicking around somewhere
23:18 [Scotsman] goes to look
23:18 [Banichi] Pavanne: plain-text is nicely formatted :P
23:18 [@Pavanne] Banichi: only to compscis
23:18 [Banichi] joking apart, what's wrong with the current format?
23:19 [Banichi] it has time-stamps and author tags
23:19 [@Pavanne] It's horrible to read.
23:19 [@Pavanne] should be formatted in columns
23:19 [Banichi] in what way?
23:19 [Banichi] columns?
23:19 [@Pavanne] it's just all a mess, no paragraphs or anything
23:19 * Scotsman finds his scroll thingy
23:20 [Users #townspeople] 23:20 [@Pavanne] [ adam] [ Banichi] [ Katamarino] [ Kirika] [ Scotsman]
23:20 -!- Irssi: #townspeople: Total of 6 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normal] 23:21 [adam] how are you intending to paragraph it?
23:21 * Scotsman needs to fiddle with it a bit before it's actually usable
23:21 [Banichi] Pavanne: why should it be in paragraphs or columns?
23:21 [Banichi] it's a bloody irc log
23:21 * Scotsman thwaps Banichi - no call for that language
23:22 [@Pavanne] yes, but it should be readable like a script (I think)
23:22 [@Pavanne] since a new person is talking every line, it needs a new paragraph.
23:22 [Banichi] Pavanne: it is readable like a script
23:22 [Banichi] it can be easily read by a script in fact
23:23 --> Inquisitor joins
23:23 [Banichi] erm, do you mean paragraphs as in indentation? or paragraphs as in leaving lines between?
23:23 [adam] I think she meant blank lines
23:23 [@Pavanne] indentation
23:23 [adam] oh
23:24 [@Pavanne] the way it comes up on screen, or the way you were taught in language classes
23:25 [Banichi] erm, /me really cannot see how indentation would help
23:25 [Banichi] as the vast majority are one-liners it would make it look worse
23:25 [@Pavanne] it just reads more prettily, like a book or script rather than a dense jungle of words
23:26 [Banichi] erm
23:26 [Banichi] if you want pretty convert it to a pdf or something
23:27 [Scotsman] shush
23:27 [Banichi] I realise it's possible that I'm irretrievably biased here and if so then I apologise
23:28 [Banichi] but I think the current format with the timestamps down the left is nice and easy to see
23:28 [Banichi] actually, I may know what the problem is
23:28 [Banichi] Pavanne: what resolution are you using?
23:29 [@Pavanne] I don't knoew, but on mine it opens in notepad as a continuous block of text
23:29 [Banichi] erm, right
23:30 [Banichi] it shouldn't
23:30 [Banichi] the problem is that you're pointing a webbrowser at a raw text file
23:30 [Scotsman] Banichi: it'll be DOS linebreaks vs Unix ones?
23:30 [Banichi] and the behavious is unspecified
23:30 [@Pavanne] I ncan read it easier on the srcf, yes, but most people won't use that
23:30 [Banichi] some browsers will open it a random app, or save it
23:30 [Banichi] some will try to interpret it as html
23:31 [Banichi] the second option actually works best in this case
23:31 [@Pavanne] I figure most people likely to not be on here permanently will use windows
23:31 [Banichi] as browsers are designed to only need CR's
23:31 [Banichi] I am using windows :P
23:31 [Banichi] IE no less
23:34 [@Pavanne] hmmm, Guru told me I had very low resolution today
23:34 [Scotsman] :)
23:35 [adam] Pavanne: do you know what it is?
23:35 [@Pavanne] no idea whatsoever.
23:37 [Scotsman] woo! coloured logs are back folks
23:37 [Scotsman] http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~jmc80/mafia3/nice_log.cgi?log=townspeople
23:38 [@Pavanne] that's very nice, thank you Scotsman
23:38 * Scotsman bows
23:40 [Scotsman] eek it's b0rked a bit
23:40 [Scotsman] ah ! i know the problem
23:46 [Banichi] Pavanne: it should be one line per thingy, but if your screen isn't wide enough and you have word wrap turned on it'll look messy
23:46 [Banichi] hint: turn word wrap off ;)
23:46 [Banichi] alternatively, use some magic to generate a proper html page from the raw text file and it'll work in any browser
23:47 [@Pavanne] well, it's better for me now
23:47 [@Pavanne] stop talking about compsci stiuff and start considering who the mafia are
23:47 [Scotsman] Banichi!
23:48 [Banichi] er
23:48 [Banichi] sorry
23:48 [Banichi] just trying to help :P
23:49 [Banichi] eep!
23:49 * Banichi gets washing in
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00:00 [@Pavanne] Midnight. Lock your doors.
00:00 [adam] game on!
00:00 * adam just locked his
00:00 [@Pavanne] the aliens have landed, though I'm afraid there is some uncertainty as to whether they're going to do anything
00:00 [Scotsman] lol
00:00 [Scotsman] take them to our dealers
00:00 * Banichi has locked his
00:00 [@Pavanne] I figure lights in the sky are enough without murdering some random
00:01 [@Pavanne] and I csan't bring myself to kill Catherine :)
00:01 * Scotsman volunteers to do so
00:01 [adam] Scotsman: the rules say not to
00:01 [adam] specifically, I believe
00:01 [Scotsman] oh shush
00:07 * Banichi notes the lack of certain players here....
00:07 [Scotsman] mebbe they're too intoxicated
00:07 [@Pavanne] or they can't make it online
00:08 [Banichi] like Jeff you mean?
00:08 [Banichi] did everyone leave the pub at the same time?
00:08 [Scotsman] I didn't
00:08 [adam] no
00:08 [@Pavanne] no, some very early
00:09 [Scotsman] waves
00:09 [Banichi] I'm particularly worried about Jeff specifically as he knows the layout of my house...
00:09 [@Pavanne] though everyone left by game start
00:09 [Banichi] Pavanne: I left early, I mean, after that
00:09 [Scotsman] Pavanne: not surprising
00:09 [Banichi] though obviously you can't tell me :)
00:09 [adam] Banichi/Scotsman/asphalt, then Inquisitor/Edith, then Phate/thr33, then everyone else, I think
00:09 [Banichi] ah
00:10 [Banichi] then why aren't phate and thr33 back on yet....
00:10 * Banichi decides a quiet Banichi is a live Banichi
00:10 * Banichi shuts up
00:11 [@Pavanne] Actually, a dead Banichi would be quieter.
00:20 [Banichi] true
00:20 [Banichi] but it's alive that's important, not volume
00:33 [@Pavanne] 32 minutes in is too early to start worrying that no-one is going to kill anyone else
00:34 [adam] Pavanne: yes it is
00:34 [adam] Pavanne: can I license the magic word "Shroooooom"?
00:34 [@Pavanne] as what?
00:35 * Inquisitor files all of those odd things people did to Kim today.
00:35 [adam] an instant-death spell? as in the first mafia game?
00:35 [@Pavanne] if you are pointing a gun at someone from less than a metre away while in bounds, it will kill them.
00:35 [adam] bah, ok
00:36 [adam] what about differentiating them?
00:36 [@Pavanne] if you are pointing a gun at someone from less than a metre away while in bounds, it will kill them.
00:37 [adam] is there any word that won't kill someone if I say it while pointing a gun at them from less than a metre away while in bounds?
00:37 [@Pavanne] ummmm, yes. "Hi"
00:38 [@Pavanne] yoiu do have to license these words specially you know
00:38 [adam] ah, ok
00:38 [adam] can I license them in bulk?
00:38 [@Pavanne] not by dccing me a dictionary, no.
00:38 [adam] damn, there goes that plan
00:39 [@Pavanne] stick to "bang", "shrooooooom" and d/dx
00:39 * adam . o O ( /dcc Pavanne /usr/share/dict/words )
00:40 [@Pavanne] If you say all of the words in an approved dictionary, in alphabetical order, under the previously stated conditions, they are dead.
00:41 * adam wonders how long that would take
00:41 [adam] alternatively, what constitutes an approved dictionary?#
00:41 [@Pavanne] One you show me and I tell you it's okay.
00:41 [adam] I don't think this scam is going to work
00:41 [adam] fortunately I had nothing to gain from it anyway
00:42 [@Pavanne] No, and I think you should just shoot people when they're a metre away and you hold a gun
00:42 [@Pavanne] not talk to them
00:42 [adam] what if the gun doesn't work?
00:44 [Banichi] then you're a muppet obviously
00:44 [@Pavanne] Ummmm. If it's empty of bullets, it doesn't work as a cap gun either
00:44 [adam] exactly!
00:44 [@Pavanne] unless you never load it, and refer to it as a pure cap gun
00:45 [adam] rather than an applied cap gun?
00:45 [@Pavanne] (e.g. a banana)
00:45 [adam] we can use bananas as cap guns?
00:45 * adam 's first knife was a banana
00:45 [@Pavanne] Yes. Label them cap gun, though.
00:46 [adam] it went quite squishy after a few days
00:46 [@Pavanne] or maybe bayonet
00:46 [@Pavanne] so you can use it as a knife instead
00:46 [adam] can I label it 'banana'?
00:46 [@Pavanne] if you like
00:46 [adam] will it have any in-game properties if I do?
00:46 [@Pavanne] but don't expect it to have any in-game effect if you stab/ shoot someone with it
00:47 [adam] what if I label it banana and then eat it?
00:47 [Banichi] then in-game, you get nourished
00:47 [@Pavanne] indeed :)
00:48 [adam] what if I label it 'banana of invulnerability' and then eat it?
00:48 [@Pavanne] You get nourished as usual. There is no such thing as a banana of invulnerability
00:49 [adam] in which case how can I be nourished by eating one?
00:49 [@Pavanne] you get nourished, not invulnerable
00:50 [adam] can I license a banana which makes me invulnerable until I'm attacked?
00:51 [@Pavanne] No, because then you might be invulnerable when attacking.
00:52 [adam] only until they attack back
00:52 [@Pavanne] Still no. Sorry
00:52 [@Pavanne] goodnight
00:52 [adam] awww
00:52 [adam] goodnight
00:52 * adam goes to bed
01:36 --> Phate joins
01:38 [Inquisitor] Are .hack//Dusk and .hack//Legend of Twilight's Bracelet different? For some reason I thought they weren't...
01:39 [Inquisitor] Ah, no. Just listed many times.
01:39 [Inquisitor] GAH. Wrong channel...
01:54 --> thr33 joins
03:17 * Katamarino notices Banichi and wonders what he has done to my pretty computer
03:24 * Katamarino tells Banichi where to go stick his nmap :p
03:41 <-- Katamarino leaves (AnacųnŠa · "When eating an elephant, take one bite at a time")
09:50 * Scotsman wonders where people are
10:08 * adam is here
10:08 [Scotsman] hey adam
10:08 [adam] morning
10:22 --> edith|bed joins
10:23 [Scotsman] morning edith|bed
10:23 [edith|bed] morning
10:23 [edith|bed] Anyone dead yet?
10:24 [Scotsman] not that I know of
10:24 [Scotsman] are you just up?
10:24 [Scotsman] there's a distinct lack of people on this channel
10:26 [edith|bed] Nope. I'm off to make breakfast.
10:26 [edith|bed] Tom is currently at Sainsburys
10:27 [edith|bed] And definatly not in bed.
10:27 [Scotsman] oh right?
10:27 [edith|bed] (note: Edith may be confusing for the hell of it)
10:28 [edith|bed] Right, breakfast.
10:30 * Banichi wonders when Pavanne will be up
10:31 [Banichi] mmm, liquorice :)
10:31 * Scotsman would volunteer to wake her but she's a bit far away this year :s
10:32 [Banichi] aww
10:32 [Scotsman] yeah
10:32 [Banichi] Scotsman: so, did you get X working?
10:32 [Scotsman] yep
10:32 [Scotsman] I had to comment a couple of lines in my XF86Config-4 file
10:32 [Banichi] do you think you can fix mine?
10:32 [Scotsman] shrug
10:32 [Scotsman] doubt it :)
10:33 [Scotsman] not without b0rking other bits
10:34 [Banichi] the current situation is: X doens't work at all, not even a bit
10:35 [Scotsman] what's the error message
10:35 [Scotsman] shall we move somewhere where Pavanne isn't going to get pissed off with us talking CompSci again?
10:40 [Banichi] heh
10:41 [Banichi] thcs maybe
10:44 [Scotsman] hey Kirika
10:45 [Kirika] re Scotsman
10:45 * Pavanne wakes again
10:45 * Kirika wonders why Pavanne has yet to voice only players in here and set +m
10:45 [Scotsman] hey Pavanne
10:45 [Scotsman] Kirika: interesting point
10:45 Pavanne set +v Scotsman
10:46 Pavanne set +m
10:46 [Users #townspeople] 10:46 [@Pavanne ] [ adam ] [ Edith|breakfast] [ Kirika] [ thr33]
10:46 [+Scotsman] [ Banichi] [ Inquisitor ] [ Phate ]
10:46 -!- Irssi: #townspeople: Total of 9 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 7 normal] 10:46 Pavanne set +v adam
10:46 * Scotsman giggles muchly
10:46 Pavanne set +v Edith|breakfast
10:46 [@Pavanne] what have I done?
10:46 [+edith|bed] Yay! I can speak!
10:46 Pavanne set +v thr33
10:46 [+thr33] :)
10:47 Pavanne set +v Banichi
10:47 Pavanne set +v Inquisitor
10:47 Pavanne set +v Phate
10:47 Pavanne set +o Kirika
10:47 [Users #townspeople] 10:47 [@Kirika ] [+adam ] [+Edith|breakfast] [+Phate ] [+thr33]
10:47 [@Pavanne] [+Banichi] [+Inquisitor ] [+Scotsman]
10:47 -!- Irssi: #townspeople: Total of 9 nicks [2 ops, 0 halfops, 7 voices, 0 normal] 10:47 [+Scotsman] +o?
10:47 [@Kirika] :)
10:47 [+Scotsman] ah, he's not playing, is he?
10:47 [+Scotsman] s/he/you
10:48 [@Pavanne] no, and since I don't know what things like +m and +v actually mean, he is much beter qualified to op
10:48 [+Scotsman] :)
10:49 [+Banichi] oh, and join #corpses
10:49 [+edith|bed] ?
10:49 [+edith|bed] I'm not dead yet
10:49 [+Scotsman] Edith|breakfast: I think that was directed at Pavanne
10:49 [+Banichi] heh
10:49 [+edith|bed] ah
10:49 [+Banichi] yup
10:50 [+thr33] can you set #corpses +s?
10:50 [+Banichi] yup
10:52 [+edith|bed] Anyone fancy going to see a film tonight?
10:52 [+Scotsman] what film?
10:52 [+Banichi] Edith|breakfast: sure :)
10:52 [+Banichi] Edith|breakfast: is it anime?
10:53 [+edith|bed] nah. I was thinking of luring as many people to the cinema as possible and then killing them all to reduce the number of people trying to kill me.
10:53 [+Scotsman] why would anyone want to kill you?
10:54 [+edith|bed] Like I said: "Random Homicide: A 10% sucess rate is pretty good!"
10:54 [+Banichi] heh
10:55 [+edith|bed] Well, Scotsman, I'M A FECKING INNOCENT and you all slaughtered me last night because I WAS INNOCENT YOU BASTARDS and so I feel somehow I'll be getting randomly killed for no good reason anyways.
10:55 [+Scotsman] lol
10:56 * Banichi wonders whether dead people should leave #townspeople, on the one hand they're devoiced and so can't interfere too much, on the other it might create a tense atmosphere as the numbers on-channel dwindle
10:56 [+edith|bed] I feel paranoia is a great reason to massacre the rest of the channel thanks.
10:56 [+Banichi] heh
11:02 Pavanne set -v Banichi
11:03 * edith|bed reboots
11:03 <-- edith|bed leaves
11:04 [@Pavanne] erm, I know I should have got to #corpses first, but I can I be invited please?
11:15 [+adam] erk
11:15 [+adam] who died?
11:15 [+Scotsman] Banichi, from the website
11:16 [+adam] aww
11:17 [+adam] also, 9:53? no-one was even up by then
11:18 [+adam] Scotsman is the only person with an IRC alibi
11:18 [+Scotsman] I said something just before it
11:18 [+adam] mind you, you could have been in a computer room in TH
11:18 [+Scotsman] that would be rather keen :)
11:19 [+Scotsman] I have a witness - Draco
11:19 [+Scotsman] we were both here at the time
11:19 [+adam] hm, you've been logged on from icarus since 8:11
11:19 [+Scotsman] yup
11:19 [+adam] I guess you're innocent
11:20 [+Scotsman] I think it might be Phate
11:20 [+adam] I was thinking that too
11:20 [+adam] although to be honest I'd have thought Banichi could take him in a fight
11:20 [+adam] possibly he snuck up
11:21 [+Scotsman] hmmm
11:21 [+adam] seems kind of unsubtle though, killing Banichi in the middle of TH
11:21 [+adam] but banichi doesn't live there so it's not like someone would have been lurking his staircase
11:21 [+Scotsman] I think he had a DoS meeting or a Tutor meeting or something
11:21 [+adam] hm
11:22 [+Scotsman] which Phate would have known the time of
11:22 [+adam] and Phate would have known about that ... right
11:23 [+adam] Scotsman: but wait, you knew about it too
11:23 [+Scotsman] about what?
11:23 [+adam] that Banichi had a tutor meeting this morning
11:23 [+adam] so it's also possible that you're mafia and you had an associate murder Banichi at that time and place to implicate Phate
11:24 [+adam] I mean, it seems more likely that Phate is mafia, but it's not certain
11:24 [+Scotsman] ponders
11:24 [+Scotsman] true, I suppose
11:25 * adam worries that his unidling at 10:08 is consistent with someone killing Banichi at 9:53 and then running from TH to Mem Court in order to give himself an approximate alibi
11:26 [+adam] but then I'd have done better pretending to be asleep all morning
11:26 [+Scotsman] hmmm
11:26 [+adam] also I can make it in less than 15 minutes
11:26 [+Scotsman] mebbe you stopped to talk to Banichi
11:26 [+adam] I just thought I'd say it before anyone else did
11:27 [+adam] but then I wouldn't have been in a hurry
11:27 [+Scotsman] ah, try to throw us off the scent by implicating yourself first?
11:27 [+adam] well, if someone had pointed it out later you might have all been drawn in by the novelty of the suggestion
11:27 [+adam] and done something ill-advised
11:28 * adam thinks it's ironic that he and Scotsman are the ones trying to defend themselves when they have the best IRC alibis
11:28 [+Scotsman] I just lost the game
11:28 [+adam] damn
11:28 [+Scotsman] adam: that's cos we're the only ones here
11:28 [+adam] hey, is my roommate allowed to act as a witness?
11:28 [+Scotsman] i dunno
11:29 [+adam] I guess if he is people would have to be allowed to kill him
11:29 [+Scotsman] is there any reason we can trust him not to lie for you?
11:29 [+adam] well, not really
11:29 [+adam] can we trust Draco not to lie for you?
11:29 [+Scotsman] again, not really :)
11:30 * Scotsman considers shooting japanese tourists outside his window
11:30 [+adam] ok, who, if they were mafia, would want to kill Banichi first?
11:30 * adam still thinks Phate
11:30 [+Scotsman] yeah - they live close together
11:30 [+adam] or possibly one of us, of course
11:30 [+Scotsman] well, yes
11:30 [+adam] but I'd have left it until lectures started, probably
11:31 [+Scotsman] mm
11:31 [+adam] hang on a sec
11:31 [+adam] you were on icarus at 9:50, but icarus is in TH main site now
11:31 [+adam] so that's no alibi
11:31 [+Scotsman] not exactly an alibi, no
11:32 [+Scotsman] but I was at my computer within minutes of the shooting
11:32 [+Scotsman] unfortunately, the shooting took place within minutes of the computer
11:32 [+Scotsman] it could be an attempt to frame me, but I like to think I have some subtlety
11:33 * adam gives the network connection back to his roommate
11:34 [+Scotsman] get a hub :)
11:54 [+adam] s'ok, sorted it now
11:54 [+adam] mem court is full of gowned freshers!
11:57 --> Monkey joins
11:58 [+adam] morning Mercutio
11:59 [@Pavanne] hello :)
11:59 [+adam] Pavanne: type /mode #townspeople +v monkey
11:59 Pavanne set +v Monkey
11:59 [@Pavanne] adam: I do know the command...
11:59 [+adam] sorry, I wasn't sure
11:59 [@Pavanne] but yes, I forgot
12:00 [+adam] Monkey: where were you at 9:53?
12:01 [+Monkey] Bed.
12:01 [+adam] figures
12:01 [+Scotsman] got a witness?
12:02 [+adam] his teddy bear?
12:02 [+Monkey] Scotsman: Unfortunately not.
12:02 [+Scotsman] :(
12:03 [+Monkey] I reckon it was Scotsman killing the mafia again.
12:04 [+Scotsman] just 'cos I've got a proven track record :)
12:04 [+adam] Scotsman: if you admit to killing Banichi we'll probably all believe that it was your anti-mafia intuition again
12:04 [+Scotsman] I did say I was going to kill him in the pub last night :)
12:05 [+Monkey] You did indeed.
12:05 [+adam] and did you?
12:05 [+Scotsman] I snuck up on him as he walked to the library
12:05 [+adam] this morning?
12:05 [+Scotsman] yes, at 09.53
12:05 [+adam] and killed him?
12:05 [+Scotsman] I'd just spoken at 09.50 when I saw him from my window
12:06 [+Scotsman] point-blank, cap gun shot yes
12:06 [+Scotsman] he didn't even see me
12:06 [+adam] ok
12:06 [+adam] why did you kill him?
12:06 [+Scotsman] 1) I'd said I would last night, so it seemed a good idea
12:06 [+Scotsman] 2) He's an evil, shifty dude even if he isn't mafia :)
12:07 [+Scotsman] 3) I want to be able to eat meals in college in relative safety
12:07 [+Monkey] All in favour of lynching Scotsman?
12:07 [+Scotsman] 4) He shot me when I had two broken arms
12:07 [+adam] Monkey: I say we wait for him to kill Phate first
12:07 [+Scotsman] why?
12:08 [+Monkey] He's Phate
12:08 [+Scotsman] good point
12:08 [+adam] because then I won't have any players in my lectures come thursday
12:08 [+Scotsman] adam: :)
12:08 [+adam] plus what Monkey said
12:08 [+Monkey] Jacob wants to know if anyone has a spare AT power supply.
12:08 [+adam] sorry, no
12:09 [+Scotsman] not a live one, no
12:09 [@Pavanne] oooh, shock development, Scotsman claims to have shot Banichi
12:09 [+Monkey] We've got a dead one, it's not much use.
12:09 [+adam] Pavanne: we know
12:09 [@Pavanne] yes, I only just read it :)
12:09 [+Scotsman] adam: I think she was doing the voice-over recap for viewers who tuned in late
12:09 [+Monkey] I reckon he's lying to cover up for someone else.
12:09 [+Scotsman] why would I do that, Monkey?
12:09 [+adam] Monkey: how would that benefit him?
12:10 [@Pavanne] I think I'll try to headline major allegations on updates
12:10 [+Monkey] Dunno, just stirring things up.
12:10 [+Scotsman] :)
12:10 * adam hopes Scotsman is the werewolf
12:11 [+adam] otherwise we'll have two people randomly killing everyone they meet
12:11 [+Scotsman] adam: I'm still convinced it's a good plan
12:12 * adam checks the part II lecture timetable nervously
12:12 [+Scotsman] eek, we have lectures?
12:12 [+Scotsman] aw crap
12:15 [+adam] Scotsman: you probably don't have to go
12:15 [+adam] unless you want that 2.i
12:15 [+Scotsman] hmmm
12:16 [+Phate] morning all
12:17 [+adam] morning Phate
12:17 [+adam] you'll be glad to know we've stopped suspecting you of being mafia for now
12:17 [+thr33] morning
12:17 [+adam] morning thr33
12:17 [+Phate] i see i've been suspected of being mafia already.
12:17 [+Phate] adam: oh, for now.. thats comforting (:
12:17 [+adam] Phate: not any more, Scotsman admitted to the murder you were suspected of
12:17 [+thr33] adam: I was saying morning to Phate, I've been up for a while :)
12:17 [+thr33] but good morning to you too anyway
12:17 [+adam] thr33: well, I haven't said good morning to you yet
12:18 [+Phate] yes, but scotsman has now been actively encouraged to kill me..
12:18 [@Pavanne] hi Phate
12:18 [+adam] Phate: so kill him first
12:18 [+Phate] morning jenny
12:18 [+adam] do it now
12:18 [+Scotsman] eep
12:18 [+Phate] lol
12:18 [+Scotsman] adam: you seem to be taking a large interest in getting me dead
12:18 [+Monkey] Nobody's actively encouraged to kill anyone. We're playing the happy fuzzy bunny game.
12:19 * Scotsman is trying to work out how to get his lecture timetable into Evolution
12:19 [@Pavanne] I actively encourage everyone to do killing.
12:19 [+adam] Phate: the rules of the game in your .plan are wrong, by the way
12:19 [@Pavanne] I'd rather they had some kind of justification, but it's not my place to judge.
12:20 [+Phate] bah. surely that means you just lost ?
12:20 [+adam] dunno, I forget when I lasyt lost
12:20 [+adam] but the second and third sentences in rule 3 should be in rule 2
12:21 [+Phate] maybe ill just move one of them to balance it out..
12:21 [+Scotsman] Pavanne: howsabout "It's the same game plan I've had for the last two games" as a justification?
12:21 [@Pavanne] Scotsman: It's not my place to judge
12:22 * Pavanne finishes updating irc summary
12:23 [+Phate] Pavanne: is the freshers fair a no-kill zone?
12:23 [@Pavanne] yes
12:23 [+Phate] aah, good (:
12:23 [+thr33] :)
12:23 [+adam] and you're OOB approaching and leaving if you're helping there
12:24 [@Pavanne] morning thr33
12:24 [+thr33] hi
12:24 [+Phate] btw, i have an alabi for thismorning if anyone still suspects that i killed banichi
12:24 [+Scotsman] oh yeah?
12:24 [+Monkey] No, but I think you probably mong fish.
12:24 [+adam] Phate: I don't, but what is it?
12:25 [+Phate] adam: i didnt say right away because it would involve revealing some sensetive information..
12:25 [@Pavanne] Monkey: now now, don't be rude
12:25 [+adam] ok, I do suspect you killed Banichi. what's your alibi?
12:25 [+Phate] lol
12:25 [+Monkey] He's a frickin' trout farmer.
12:26 [+Phate] (:
12:30 [+Monkey] Anyway, I'm off to set up my computer. Anyone wants to kill me, feel free to drop by.
12:35 * Scotsman has the feeling he's really going to dislike his timetable by about two weeks in :(
12:35 [+Phate] hmm.. according to my profile, im supposed to be deeply offended if anyone calls me a fishmonger..
12:35 [@Pavanne] that's a point, I should choose my timetable
12:36 [+Phate] Scotsman: if you've got all your lectures in Evolution, could export them to an ical for me plz?
12:36 [+Scotsman] umm, no
12:37 [+Scotsman] you're not going to my lectures and I don't want you lurking them ;-)
12:37 [+Phate] lol.. i was considering going to your security lectures
12:37 [+Scotsman] I also have no idea how to do so...
12:37 [+Phate] ah
12:38 [+Scotsman] Check your mail... crosses fingers
12:38 [+Phate] that looks about right.. cheers (:
12:38 [+Scotsman] cool
12:39 [+Phate] meh, korganizer wont load id
12:40 [+Phate] it*
12:40 [+Scotsman] oh well, that's 'cos you use lame k-stuff ;-)
12:40 * Phate ignores the troll
12:44 * Pavanne goes off for a bit. No-one kill anyone I wouldn't kill.
12:55 --> jon joins
12:55 * Scotsman gets panicked by a fresher sitting in his staircase
12:55 --> Snapdragon joins
13:02 <-- Snapdragon leaves (Ping timeout: 360 seconds)
13:09 Pavanne set +v jon
13:09 * Inquisitor staggers out of bed...
13:09 [+Scotsman] hey Inquisitor
13:10 [+Inquisitor] Hiya. Who died?
13:10 [+Scotsman] Banichi
13:11 [+Inquisitor] Hmmm... Has it been proven that e was being a dodgy git as promised, or is there suspicion of foul play afoot?
13:11 [@Pavanne] Hi Inquisitor
13:12 [@Pavanne] erm, did anyone try to modify my configuration file for logging?
13:12 [+Inquisitor] Hiya.
13:12 -!- You're now known as Pavanne|TDS 13:12 [+Scotsman] Pavanne|TDS: not me
13:12 [@Pavanne|TDS] Warning: Configuration file was modified while irssi was running. Saving
13:12 [@Pavanne|TDS] configuration to file '/home/jmc80/.irssi/config.autosave' instead.
13:12 [@Pavanne|TDS] Use /SAVE or /RELOAD to get rid of this message.
13:12 [@Pavanne|TDS] should I worry?
13:12 [+Scotsman] did you copy the one from banichi's folder?
13:13 [+Scotsman] [yesterday]
13:13 [+thr33] just /reload if you want to use the new config
13:13 [+Scotsman] mebbe your turning on of logging had an effect?
13:13 * Scotsman looks for more straws to clutch at
13:14 * Pavanne|TDS decides to ignore it as it seems to be still working
13:14 [@Pavanne|TDS] thanks
13:15 * Inquisitor finished SB.
13:21 [+adam] mm, shopping in gametime
13:21 [+adam] always fun
13:22 [+jon] i love shopping in gametime :)
13:22 [+Scotsman] like last game?
13:22 [+jon] yes
13:23 [+jon] but normally im a bit more careful
13:24 [+adam] standing at the checkout in sainsbury's is the most nerve-wracking
13:24 [+adam] 'cause you can't really run
13:25 [+jon] which is why i dont worry about it, just try to make it as sj
13:25 [+jon] short as poss
13:26 * adam saw lots of assassins in sainsbury's last mayweek
13:27 [+adam] but I was dead for most of them
13:27 [+jon] you can only go to sainsbury's when you are dead... sounds kinda spooky
13:29 * Inquisitor used to go to the Newmarket Road Tescos.
13:34 [+Inquisitor] Gah. College being useless. I'm not very graduated, y'know...
13:35 [+jon] not very graduated? hows that?
13:36 [+adam] no-one knows whether part III mathmos are supposed to be graduates or not
13:36 [+Inquisitor] Some graduands do silly things like leave.
13:37 [+Inquisitor] The porters asked me that yesterday. My response 'Are you asking the LEA, the acomodation department, the bursery, the maths department.... ?'
13:40 * adam notes that the prettylogger doesn't seem quite perfect
13:40 [+Scotsman] it's not quite perfect
13:40 [+Scotsman] what's wrong with it?
13:40 [+adam] it gets confused by the users line
13:40 [+adam] see 10:47
13:41 [+Scotsman] yeah, pavanne must have /names at that point
13:41 [+adam] ah, and that breaks it?
13:41 [+Scotsman] yeah, due to the way Irssi logs I think
13:44 [+adam] also it's kind of confusing that you can't colour actions
13:45 [+Scotsman] 'cos I can't tell whether the person is voiced or not
13:45 [+Scotsman] [without fiddling with nick-tracking options at any rate]
13:47 [+adam] right, hence 'can't' rather than 'don't'
13:47 [+Scotsman] indeed
13:47 [+Scotsman] but nick-tracking gets confused too easily
13:47 [+Scotsman] and I didn't care all that much :)
13:54 * Inquisitor has to go into town for a while. Unspeakable things must be done to my University Card...
13:55 [+adam] someone kill him!
13:55 [+adam] um, if he's mafia, that is
13:56 [+Inquisitor] I'm not.
13:56 [+Scotsman] I've had enough of random killings for the day
13:56 [+Inquisitor] Also, I'm taking a slightly windy route, so don't know exactly when I'll get to that office they have...
13:57 [+Inquisitor] Scotsman: Market Square, 3:00. Bring your own Banana.
13:57 [+Inquisitor] Or perhaps not.
13:57 [+Scotsman] hmmm, banana
13:58 [+Scotsman] can i throw bananas?
13:58 [+Inquisitor] Not at me...
13:58 [+Inquisitor] Bye.
13:58 [+Scotsman] oh ok
13:58 [+Scotsman] byebye
13:59 --> Pufferfish joins
13:59 * Scotsman prods Pavanne|TDS
13:59 [+Scotsman] Pufferfish: you don't have voice yet
13:59 [+thr33] prod Kirika
14:03 Kirika set +v Pufferfish
14:03 [+Scotsman] yay
14:05 [+Pufferfish] yay!
14:05 * Pufferfish has an alibi for Banichi's death: I was in a lecture at the time :)
14:05 [+Scotsman] oh, I killed him
14:05 [+adam] Pufferfish: you also have the fact that Scotsman admitted to the murder
14:05 [+Pufferfish] well yes :)
14:05 [+Pufferfish] but I just wanted to moan that I had a lecture today
14:06 [+Scotsman] oh dear
14:06 [+Scotsman] point
14:06 [+thr33] on what?
14:06 [+thr33] term hasn't even started ...
14:06 [+Pufferfish] "Induction into [subject] and guidelines for library usage"
14:06 [+adam] some third-years seem to have this silly timetable that starts today
14:06 [+thr33] ridiculous
14:07 [+Pufferfish] I don't mind desperately though, because we don't have Saturday lectures any more
14:08 [+adam] yay!
14:08 * adam has four more
14:09 [+thr33] meh, I have Saturday lectures all this term
14:10 [+adam] thr33: you do?
14:10 [+thr33] yes
14:10 [+thr33] in physics
14:10 [+adam] oh, you're one of those silly physicists
14:11 [+thr33] no, I'm a non-silly physicist :P
14:13 [+adam] can you honestly say you don't think quantum physics is silly?
14:15 [+thr33] well, maybe just a little ... :)
14:16 [+Scotsman] hmm, I can see Phate
14:16 [+Scotsman] should I get him?
14:16 [+adam] if you like
14:16 [+adam] where is he?
14:16 [+Scotsman] just gone to see his tutor I think
14:17 [+adam] is he dodgy enough to kill?
14:17 [+Scotsman] I think he'd kill me if he had the chance
14:19 [+adam] even if he was innocent?
14:19 -!- mode/#townspeople [+v Pufferfish] by Pavanne|TDS 14:19 [+Scotsman] well, I've admitted to nobbling Banichi
14:19 [+Scotsman] hey Pavanne|TDS
14:19 [+Scotsman] ach hell, I can't risk it - he's going down
14:20 [+Scotsman] but not by me
14:20 [+Scotsman] my knees are shaking too much :s
14:21 [+adam] he's going down but not by you?
14:23 [+Scotsman] mebbe someone will get him on his way home
14:23 [+adam] one of your mafia buddies?
14:23 [+Pufferfish] where's he living, and where's his tutor's office?
14:24 [+Scotsman] he's living in Clems this year
14:24 * Scotsman checks his door is locked
14:24 [+Pufferfish] realises her door isn't locked
14:24 [+Pufferfish] locks it
14:24 [+Scotsman] :)
14:25 [+Pufferfish] I don't have an automatically locking door this year, which is a Pain
14:25 * adam wonders if locking doors actually necessary in this game or whether no-one would bother trying
14:25 --> Snapdragon joins
14:25 [+Pufferfish] I always try doors, just in case
14:26 [+adam] Pufferfish: the door in my room last year didn't lock automatically but it was great because you didn't need to turn the handle to pull it open
14:26 [+Pufferfish] seems as if I have the worst of both worlds then
14:26 [+adam] possibly
14:28 -!- You're now known as Pavanne 14:33 <-- Snapdragon leaves (Ping timeout: 360 seconds)
14:36 --> Abner joins
14:37 <-- Abner leaves (Client Quit)
14:39 [@Pavanne] ooops
14:55 [+Scotsman] adam: I don't have mafia buddies
14:55 [+Scotsman] (just noticing scrollback, sorry)
15:11 * adam is bored, someone kill someone
15:12 [+Scotsman] come over here then
15:12 [+adam] no, too far away
15:12 [+adam] come and stand outside my window and I'll shoot you
15:12 [+Scotsman] ok
15:14 [+Pufferfish] the same offer applies to my window, and it's on the first floor
15:14 [+Scotsman] if I can stand outside your window i'm doing well then ;-)
15:14 * Scotsman decides he needs new computer bits
15:15 [+adam] there are some on mem court lawn
15:15 * Scotsman also notes he needs money
15:15 [+Scotsman] adam: computer bits?
15:15 [+adam] yes
15:15 * Pufferfish puts some computer bits on the grass of Tree Court and waits
15:15 [+adam] shiny ones
15:15 [+Scotsman] ooh
15:15 [+Scotsman] goes - hold on, you're not tricking me are you?
15:15 [+adam] er
15:15 [+adam] would I?
15:15 [+Scotsman] you might do, 'cos you're evil
15:16 [+adam] am not
15:16 [+Scotsman] am too
15:16 [+Pufferfish] giggle
15:16 [+adam] am not
15:16 [+Scotsman] mebbe Pufferfish is
15:16 [+adam] maybe she is
15:16 [+adam] go and ask her
15:16 [+Scotsman] nah, I'll trust her for now
15:16 [+adam] Pufferfish, are you evil?
15:17 * Scotsman fiddles with the focus on his webcam
15:17 [+Pufferfish] adam: not usually
15:17 [+adam] what about today?
15:17 [+Pufferfish] well, I could be an evil alien-possessed menace
15:18 [+Scotsman] eek
15:18 [+Pufferfish] or a werewolf
15:19 [+Pufferfish] or just an ordinary townsperson
15:19 [+Pufferfish] There can't actually be that many townspeople, given the mafia and the police and the werewolf and the Seers
15:19 [+Scotsman] 6 or 7 mebbe
15:19 [+Scotsman] roughly half the game size
15:19 [+adam] well, hrm
15:20 * adam tries to remember whether Pavanne said how many there were of any roles
15:20 [+Scotsman] 1 werewolf
15:20 [+adam] did she say how many illuminati or seers there were?
15:20 [+Scotsman] no, but I'm guessing not more than 2 of either
15:20 [+adam] say 3-5 total
15:20 [+Scotsman] yeah
15:20 [+adam] and 3-5 mafia, probably
15:21 [+Scotsman] yes
15:21 [+adam] so 4-8 townspeople
15:21 [+Scotsman] 5 mafia may be too high, but otherwise yes
15:21 [+adam] I'd be surprised if there were 5 mafia, 5 illum/seers and a werewolf
15:21 [+Scotsman] yes
15:22 [+adam] I'm guessing something like 4/2/2/1 or 4/3/2/1 is most likely
15:22 [+adam] maybe only 3 mafia since there's a wofl too, I guess
15:22 [+Scotsman] hmmm
15:23 [+adam] but this is the biggest mafia game so far, right?
15:24 [+Scotsman] The first was 13, the second 11 or something like that, so yes
15:24 [+adam] 4 mafia and a wolf isn't insane then
15:24 [+Scotsman] mmm
15:27 * Pavanne looks guilty for being online, and confirms that there is 1 wolf and 2 independent Seers
15:27 [+Scotsman] ahh
15:27 [+Scotsman] hello Pavanne
15:27 [@Pavanne] I'm only online to sort out my options, honest
15:27 [+Scotsman] :)
15:32 * Scotsman regrets not having a computer desk which faces the door
15:33 [+adam] Scotsman: move it?
15:33 [+Scotsman] no, 'cos (1) I'm sharing the room so I can't just rearrange everything and (2) if I move it the sun would shine on the screen :(
15:33 [+adam] aw
15:35 * Pavanne moved all her furniture around when she got here, partly to make a suitable bomb shelter
15:35 [+Scotsman] :)
15:35 * Scotsman has a ready-made bomb shelter
15:36 [@Pavanne] a roommate?
15:36 [+Scotsman] a bedroom a long way from the front door, but yes, him too
15:37 [+Scotsman] I'll need to ask Ric just how much of my furniture I can register as shelters
15:38 [+Scotsman] anyone know when he's getting back to Cam?
15:38 [+adam] sets seem nice for bombsheltering
15:38 [+Scotsman] yeah :)
15:39 [+adam] also, what's the deal with shared rooms and indirect door attacks?
15:39 [@Pavanne] usually you go wanted.
15:40 [+Pufferfish] In my game you went wanted if the player had specified it was shared
15:40 [+adam] ok, excellent
15:40 [+Pufferfish] if the player didn't say it was a shared room, they would have gone wanted
15:40 * Scotsman notes he'll need to leave any decisions over whether to play assassins this term until after tomorrow's wrist slappings from Tutors and DoS
15:40 [+Pufferfish] but it never happened
15:40 [@Pavanne] Hmmm, I think I was going to bomb someone but stopped when I got there because it was a set
15:41 [@Pavanne] could I have just gone back, reported it was a set and made him wanted?
15:41 [@Pavanne] I can't remember what game, though, or who...
15:41 [+Pufferfish] presumably here "set" = shared room
15:41 [+Scotsman] where does the name 'set' come from?
15:42 [+Pufferfish] a "set" of bedroom and living room
15:42 [@Kirika] a set of rooms?
15:42 [+Pufferfish] as opposed to a bedsit
15:42 [@Pavanne] Pufferfish: yes, well, it had two names on the door anyway dso I didn't bomb it
15:42 [+Scotsman] hmmm, suppose so
15:42 [+Scotsman] hi Kirika
15:42 [@Kirika] hi Scotsman
15:42 [+Pufferfish] if there are two names on the door I wouldn't make anyone wanted for not saying so in the signup
15:42 [+Pufferfish] because it's obvious from outside that there are two people in the room
15:42 * Kirika just had frantic call from Snapdragon "My computer doesn't work!"
15:42 [+Pufferfish] However I would add that data to and future targettting emails sent
15:43 [+Pufferfish] If, on the other hand, there is no evidence that it's a shared room, that's playing silly buggers and should be punished
15:43 * Pavanne is probably capable of bombing shared rooms without looking at the writing
15:44 [@Pavanne] anyway, this is not #townspeople stuff
15:44 [+adam] true
15:44 [+adam] would you rather we went to #assassins?
15:45 [@Pavanne] ummm, I'd rather have this log fairly concise and about the mafia game, for the benefit of those who have to read sb
15:45 [+Scotsman] fair enough
15:54 -!- You're now known as Pav|swimming 16:43 -!- You're now known as Pavanne 16:58 * adam hopes the mafia are going to do something
16:58 [+adam] if this game drags on for ages it would be lame
16:58 [+Monkey] Maybe they already have.
16:58 [+adam] you mean Banichi? or something else not up yet?
16:58 [+Monkey] I mean Banichi.
16:59 [@Pavanne] adam: I really really hope that too, don't worry
16:59 [+adam] well, Scotsman might be mafia, but he might just be generally murderous so we can't conclude anything
16:59 [+Monkey] Yes. But being generally murderous is a damn good cover for being mafia.
17:00 [+adam] true
17:00 [+adam] but it seems a little over the top to set it up two games previously
17:00 [+Monkey] I was thinking more of using his reputation to his advantage.
17:01 [+Monkey] Rather than actually planning it in advance.
17:02 [+jon] anyone else dead yet?
17:02 [+Monkey] Nope.
17:02 [@Pavanne] not as far as I've heard
17:03 [+jon] i spose 1 a day will make this last for 2 weeks...
17:03 [@Pavanne] that would be a very bad thing
17:04 [+Pufferfish] it'll probably pick up a bit when (everyone else's) lectures start
17:04 [@Pavanne] also, not everyone has to die
17:04 [@Pavanne] depends how evenly matched our sides are
17:05 [+jon] true
17:05 [@Pavanne] and if it really slows down, I will announce the name of the least active mafioso.
17:06 [@Pavanne] and then the werewolf- it's in the rules
17:06 [@Pavanne] but I really really hope it doesn't come to that
17:06 [+Scotsman] mmm, interesting
17:06 [+adam] if it really slows down you could increase the rate of seer checks
17:07 [@Pavanne] adam: I'll do that first, anyway
17:07 [@Pavanne] but this does give the mafia an incentive to do stuff
17:07 [+Scotsman] when is the first check? Tomorrow, 3pm? or did you move that away from the Fresher's Fair?
17:07 [@Pavanne] on index page, 2.45pm
17:07 [@Pavanne] so didn't move it very far
17:08 * Scotsman needs to work on his whole "reading what's actually on the webpage"
17:08 [@Pavanne] the time of next check will always be on the index page, so the mafia can pretend to be illuminati betrter :)
17:08 [+Scotsman] :)
17:08 [+Scotsman] oh, point of information, jon - what's your address?
17:09 [@Pavanne] argh, muppet
17:09 [@Kirika] Scotsman: need to know....
17:09 * Pavanne updates
17:09 [+Scotsman] Kirika: yes
17:09 [@Kirika] why?
17:09 [@Kirika] (Its M30 anyhow)
17:09 [+Scotsman] 'cos it's not fair on us who have their addresses up already :)
17:10 [+jon] sorry, everyone, i have emailed Pavanne. it's 11 east court.
17:10 [@Kirika] Scotsman: anyone competent can find a catz address theres a big list up in the plodge listed in alphabetical order
17:10 [+Scotsman] Kirika: wtf?
17:10 [@Kirika] ah, other jon
17:10 [+jon] but if you get to east court, its written on a plaque anyway.
17:10 [@Pavanne] It's entirely my silly fault, I had the email and it slipped my mind
17:10 * Kirika is confused
17:10 [+Scotsman] yeah, jon jon not Kirika jon
17:10 [+Scotsman] sorry
17:12 [@Pavanne] is that the only address not up?
17:12 [+Scotsman] i think so
17:13 [@Pavanne] good.
17:14 * Pavanne realises she should send everyone an email at the time of the illuminati/ Seer check
17:14 [+Scotsman] yes
17:14 [+adam] yes, probably
17:14 [+Monkey] Makes sense.
17:14 [@Pavanne] sigh
17:15 [+adam] in the case of the mafia and werewolf it should say "FEAR"
17:15 [@Pavanne] :) and in the case of the ordinary townsfolk, "sorry for bothering you"
17:16 [+Scotsman] and then we check the size of each players mail spool before and after to see how long a message they got...
17:16 [+Scotsman] ponders
17:16 [+Monkey] The headers would most likely muck that up.
17:16 [+jon] Scotsman: i get lots of emails, so that wouldnt help.
17:16 [+Scotsman] hmmm, possibly
17:16 [@Pavanne] er, I could make them all the same length- I tried to make them as similar as possible in the roles one
17:16 [+Scotsman] jon: more than one a minute?
17:17 * Monkey goes to find people and plot tonight's activities
17:18 * Pavanne starts composing the emails :S
17:18 [+Scotsman] ooh plotting
17:18 [+Monkey] These will likely involve drinking, not killing.
17:18 [+Scotsman] ah, fair enough
17:18 [+adam] Pavanne: don't you need to know who the seers and illum are checking?
17:18 [@Pavanne] adam: not to get all emails the same length
17:19 [@Pavanne] since "yes" and "no" will be all that needs to be added
17:19 [+Monkey] You can just pad with spaces.
17:19 [+Monkey] Anyway, I away
17:19 [+adam] bye
17:19 [+Scotsman] byebye
17:21 --> Minister joins
17:21 Pavanne set +v Minister
17:22 [+adam] one dead so far
17:22 [+Minister] Hi, I'v eonly just got in, so I'll get up to speed in a bit-what do we know?
17:22 [+Scotsman] i killed Banichi
17:23 [+adam] and nothing else interesting happened
17:23 [+Minister] Er, I thought the idea was that people didn't confess what they'd done (although with Banichi I might understand)
17:24 [+Minister] Anyway, I have a couple of things to do, will chat in a few minutes
17:25 [+adam] Scotsman is just murderous though
17:25 [+Scotsman] and I'd predicted his death the night before
17:25 [+Scotsman] [and to him...
17:27 [+adam] also, you can talk, Mr. "my-alibi-is-that-I-was-trying-to-kil-the-victim-at-the-time"
17:27 [+Scotsman] heh
17:29 [+Inquisitor] Minister: I think the point was that Scotsman was bloody suspicious anyway, especially given the location of the death, so he might as well come clean, and claim to be less mafia-like, and by so doing, hoping to garner less suspicion that by denying it.
17:29 * Pavanne finishes composing 14 emails likely to be very close to the same length
17:30 [+Scotsman] Pavanne: :)
17:30 [+Inquisitor] That said, it does look a little 'I killed him because I could... But I'm not mafia/werewolf! Honest!'. Still, if there's exactly one survivor, they do win...
17:30 [+Scotsman] which is what I said right at the start of the first game :)
17:40 [@Pavanne] OTOH, if you're a townsperson with no evidence, you are likely to be killing one of your own
17:42 [+Inquisitor] Well, if we assume that there are (erm... consensus seemed to be that 5 mafia was too many, so we'll guess 3-4, plus a werewolf) 4-5 hostiles, yourself, and Banichi, who we'll say for the sake of worst-case was technically innocent, that leaves not that many more people on your side than theirs.
17:43 [+Scotsman] Banichi is basically on his own side anyway ;-)
17:43 [+Minister] How many players are there?
17:43 [+Scotsman] 15 (14 now)
17:43 [+Inquisitor] 15.
17:44 [+Inquisitor] Yes. It's called #corpses, thanks to somebody...
17:44 [+Scotsman] :)
17:44 [@Pavanne] hehe
17:44 [+Scotsman] that's not logging, btw
17:44 [+Scotsman] which is prolly a good thing
17:45 [+Inquisitor] So... 7-8 innocents on your side, and 5-4 hostiles.
17:45 [@Pavanne] I think it may be logging, just not in public_html
17:45 [+Scotsman] Pavanne: good
17:46 [+Inquisitor] Hmm.... Odds aren't much better than 1 in 3. I suggest not killing at random.
17:46 [+Scotsman] (may want to check that before the action hots up ;-) )
17:46 [+Inquisitor] Mike.
17:46 [+Scotsman] shrug
17:46 [+Scotsman] it wasn't random, it was Banichi
17:46 [+Inquisitor] Right... Just saying, is all.
17:46 [+Scotsman] grins
17:47 * Pavanne checks
17:47 [@Pavanne] yes, only there is nothing said yet
17:47 [+Inquisitor] It would start to look rather suspicious if you did. At which point you'd better hope you're mafia, because otherwise everybody will want you dead.
17:47 [+Scotsman] heh, fair point
17:47 [+Scotsman] Pavanne: good
17:48 [+Minister] So, if you're claiming the kill Scotsman, do you have a motive? Or just because he looked shifty? I seem to remember it working in the last 2 games:)
17:48 [+Scotsman] I had 4 points earlier
17:49 [+Scotsman] 1 was revenge for last game, when i had 2 broken arms :)
17:49 [+Inquisitor] Hmmm... The ratio is pretty aggressive. Even 4 in 14 would be pretty bad. Were this the party version, we'd be a bit screwed.
17:49 [+Scotsman] unless Banichi happened to be mafia [knowing my track record] when it's only 3 in 14
17:50 * Pavanne cannot confirm the original number of mafia or illuminati
17:50 [+Scotsman] hmmmm
17:50 [+Inquisitor] As it is... Well, how do the dynamics compare in live action? I'd assume that it was worse, since the townspeople didn't even have the 'you must lynch somebody' to cause them to kill people for suspicion, but instead we wait for proof.
17:50 * Scotsman wonders if Pavanne was playing silly buggers with numbers...
17:50 [+Minister] Well, my favourite tactic in this game is if in doubt shoot, but I'm not sure how justified it is
17:50 [+Inquisitor] Scotsman: That's going to depend on 3, 4 or 5 mafia.
17:50 [+Scotsman] yeah
17:50 [+Inquisitor] Although I agree that 5 is unlikely.
17:51 [+adam] Inquisitor: on the other hand in this version the mafia have to kill all the townspeople to win, not just enough to get a majority
17:52 [+Inquisitor] adam: True, but once the mafia have a majority, if they still have uncertainty on their side, that's getting on for a win, since everybody will shoot on sight, except the mafia with each other.
17:52 [@Pavanne] yes, that's the payback the mafia have
17:53 [+adam] true
17:53 [+Inquisitor] I dunno, we had a 3 in 13, where two mafia died early, and Pav couldn't maintain secrecy (cheers, Sista)...
17:53 [+Inquisitor] Then what happened in the other game?
17:53 [+Inquisitor] 3 in 11, I think.
17:53 [@Pavanne] the first game was 4 in 13
17:54 [+Scotsman] the first game had 4
17:54 [+adam] 4 in 13, three mafia died early
17:54 [+adam] in the first game
17:54 [+Scotsman] unfortunately the last one was Pavanne
17:54 [@Pavanne] ;)
17:54 [@Pavanne] I seem to recall Ric telling JJ to go after my minions first...
17:54 [+Inquisitor] Ah, that's right. Scotsman got lucky, didn't he...
17:55 [+Scotsman] lucky? my plan paid off
17:55 [+Inquisitor] Erm... Yes. Shoot anyone who looks shifty?
17:55 [+Scotsman] yup
17:55 [+Inquisitor] Like, say, Banichi?
17:55 [+Scotsman] I would have shot him
17:55 [+adam] the second one was 4 in 11, I think, and one mafia died early and two stayed hidden until the duel
17:55 [+Scotsman] adam: yeah
17:56 [+Inquisitor] Oh yes, there was a duel, wasn't there.
17:56 [+Inquisitor] What's our time limit?
17:56 [+adam] main game start
17:56 [+adam] whenever that is
17:56 [+Inquisitor] Which is?
17:56 [+adam] ask Ric
17:56 [+Scotsman] not decided yet I don't think
17:56 * Inquisitor guesses... erm... friday week.
17:56 [+Scotsman] sounds suitable
17:57 [+Scotsman] just over a week after the fair
17:57 [+Inquisitor] Need a week for signup, but they can get new addresses in by the end of Friday easily enough.
17:58 [@Pavanne] I looked in the archives, game started one time on the 18th
17:58 [@Pavanne] am really hoping for a fast game :S
17:58 [+Inquisitor] Scotsman: She's talking to you...
17:59 [+Scotsman] :)
17:59 [+adam] Pavanne: have identifies every day, that'll speed things up
18:00 [@Pavanne] I thought I'd give it a day for things to happen
18:01 [+adam] but nothing has
18:01 [+adam] well, it has
18:01 [+Inquisitor] Anyway, nobody has any predictable appointments to speak of until Thursday.
18:01 [+adam] but there's nothing to speculate about since Scotsman confessed
18:02 * adam wonders why he's actually playing this game and not doing something more sociable with his first week back
18:02 [+Inquisitor] Well, we can speculate over whether he's an innocent kill-happy nutter, or a guilty one.
18:14 --> Sis|Unpacking joins
18:17 [@Pavanne] hiya Sis|Unpacking
18:19 --> Snapdragon joins
18:20 [+adam] hi sis, snap
18:21 Pavanne set +v Snapdragon
18:21 [@Pavanne] would it be really bad to op some players so they can voice people while I'm out?
18:21 [+Snapdragon] not so long as it's me you op
18:22 [+adam] just op ones you trust
18:22 [@Pavanne] that's the problem :)
18:22 [+adam] or find more interested nonplayers
18:22 [+thr33] you can trust me ;)
18:22 [@Pavanne] Your job as op would to to voice players who join the channel, and only that
18:22 [+Inquisitor] Heh... This is what you wnt a bot for...
18:22 [@Kirika] persuade everyone to run inside a screen so they don't need reviocing?
18:22 [@Kirika] or persuade someone to run an autovoice script?
18:23 [+Pufferfish] well, we'd all be able to report an op who played silly buggers anyway
18:23 [+Inquisitor] (Kim could actually be set up to allow certain people to voice others, without giving them other powers)
18:23 [+thr33] or tell them not to turn off their computers? ;)
18:23 [@Pavanne] okay...
18:23 [+Pufferfish] I don't have a problem with a player being opped
18:23 Pavanne set +o Pufferfish
18:23 Pavanne set +o Inquisitor
18:23 [@Inquisitor] That said, opping players works...
18:23 Pavanne set +o adam
18:23 Pavanne set +o thr33
18:23 Pavanne set +o Snapdragon
18:23 [@adam] muahaha
18:23 Pavanne set +o Minister
18:24 [@adam] of course it'll make the logs look different
18:24 [@Pavanne] anyone else want it?
18:24 [@Pufferfish] pav: you can probably op more than once
18:24 [@Pavanne] yes, more blue
18:24 [@Pufferfish] erm, more than one person at a time
18:24 [@Kirika] are we oping everyone?
18:24 [@Pavanne] gp
18:24 [@thr33] Kirika: everyone pav trusts
18:24 * Snapdragon wonders if he can kick-ban everyone really quickly
18:24 [@Pavanne] Kirika: yes... just so they can let people talk
18:24 [@thr33] so not Scotsman ;)
18:24 * Snapdragon wonders if there is any point in doing so
18:24 Pavanne set -o Snapdragon
18:24 [@Inquisitor] Can ops kick other ops?
18:25 [@Pufferfish] yep
18:25 [@adam] Inquisitor: yes
18:25 Kirika set +ooo jon Minister Phate
18:25 Pavanne set +o Scotsman
18:25 [@Inquisitor] That could lead to some silly things happening.
18:25 [@Kirika] OK?
18:25 [@adam] even if not they could deop and then kick them
18:25 [@Pavanne] errrr, please don't
18:25 * Kirika thinks everyone on here is old enough not to play silly buggers
18:25 * Inquisitor sees why people like bots with decent permissions structures to run their channels.
18:25 [@Pavanne] I'm trusting you to let everyone have their say
18:25 [@thr33] Inquisitor: or chanserv
18:25 [@Inquisitor] Oh, sure, this one should be fine...
18:26 [@Inquisitor] thr33: That is a bot, surely?
18:26 [@Kirika] if the umpire states noone should be kicked, and only deopped on death, then they can eject anyone from the game for being silly
18:26 [@thr33] no, it is lower level - a bot can get kicked too
18:27 [@Inquisitor] thr33: ChanServe is never on any channels, and presumably has some special flags set by the service operator, but other than that...
18:27 [@Inquisitor] Anyway, kicking only takes you off a channel, right?
18:27 [@Pufferfish] yep
18:27 [@thr33] yes
18:27 [@Pufferfish] you can't kick people off servers unless you have UberPowers. I know this.
18:27 [@Pufferfish] Grr.
18:27 [@thr33] but if you're banned then you can't rejoin
18:27 [@Inquisitor] So you have just the bot opped, and let people use it to kick/voice, if they're allowed to.
18:28 [@Inquisitor] So... How would one kick chanserve?
18:28 [@Pavanne] Indeed. I will thunderbotl anyone who plays major silly buggers
18:28 [@Pavanne] that'll speed up the game
18:28 [@Pufferfish] that's how the Pratchett channels work, and it's always been fine for us
18:28 [@thr33] Inquisitor: chanserv isn't a bot, it's extra code added to the ircd
18:28 [@adam] Inquisitor: chanserv doesn't technically exist
18:28 [@adam] yeah, what thr33 said
18:28 * Inquisitor is merely starting to understand what the whole palava with 3 level permissions, and many, many perm types, in kibot was about.
18:28 [@thr33] although I think you can make it join channels
18:28 [@Kirika] Inquisitor: killall ircd would probably do it
18:29 [Users #townspeople] 18:29 [@adam ] [@Kirika ] [@Phate ] [@thr33 ] [ Banichi ]
18:29 [@Inquisitor] [@Minister] [@Pufferfish] [+Monkey ] [ Sis|Unpacking]
18:29 [@jon ] [@Pavanne ] [@Scotsman ] [+Snapdragon]
18:29 -!- Irssi: #townspeople: Total of 14 nicks [10 ops, 0 halfops, 2 voices, 2 normal] 18:29 [@Inquisitor] thr33: I don't see how this makes it not a bot. Except that it's run by the people who run the server...
18:29 Pavanne set +o Monkey
18:29 [@Inquisitor] ::shrug:: seems to be a question of semantics.
18:29 [@thr33] we don't have it anyway, it's not installed on this server
18:30 [@adam] Inquisitor: it's not a bot because it doesn't connect to the IRC server as a suer
18:30 [@adam] user
18:30 [@Inquisitor] adam: Ah, fair enough.
18:30 [@adam] also, Pavanne is probably going to get upset that we're talking compsci on #townspeople again
18:31 [@Pavanne] I wouldn't call my reaction upset
18:31 [@Kirika] similar with nickserv etc. and other services
18:31 [@Pavanne] mildly disapproving...
18:31 [+Snapdragon] yeah, well I reckon you made Scotsman kill him
18:31 [@thr33] ooh, can we make Scotsman kill anyone we want?
18:31 [@Kirika] thr33: just point and shoot
18:32 [@Pavanne] how would I make Scxotty do anything?
18:32 [@Inquisitor] Scotsman: Kill everyone who isn't on my side.
18:32 [@Kirika] Pavanne: its all quite simple for you
18:32 [+Snapdragon] Pavanne: I meant adam made him do it
18:32 [@Pavanne] I guess "kill Banichi or I thunderbolt you" would do it...
18:33 * Pavanne tries to get the hang of absolute power
18:33 <-- Snapdragon leaves
18:40 [@Scotsman] phate is dead!
18:40 [@Scotsman] [having just had dinner with him]
18:40 [@Pufferfish] you killed him too?
18:40 [@Scotsman] no - but I jumped a mile when he came up behind me :s
18:40 [@Pufferfish] grin
18:41 [@thr33] when did he die?
18:41 --> Snapdragon joins
18:41 * Pufferfish suspects she has no alibi because any witnesses I call will be assumed to be in my pay
18:41 [@Scotsman] I'm not sure - but I'd been standing in the queue for dinner - too many freshers around atm
18:41 [@Monkey] I bumped into Edith in Churchill around 6ish, if that's any good as an alibi.
18:42 [@Scotsman] didn't kill him?
18:42 [@Monkey] Nah. He put his hands up.
18:42 [@Pavanne] can you give me any details you know, so I can update before going out?
18:43 [@Pufferfish] OTOH, one of the people who was where I was was Tom Forster, who is hopefully known to enough of you and reliable
18:43 [@Scotsman] Pavanne: I don't know anythng - he came up behind me and said "boo" before telling me has was actually dead
18:47 * Pavanne puts up what she knowsx
18:48 [@Scotsman] ooh - a report?
18:49 [@Pavanne] not very much
18:49 <-- Sis|Unpacking leaves
18:49 [@Pavanne] I trust you trusting him he's dead, is all
18:49 --> Katamarino joins
18:49 Pavanne set +v Katamarino
18:50 [@Pufferfish] I thought you weren't allowed to lie about your vital status
18:50 [@Pavanne] you're not
18:50 [@Monkey] No, but Scotty could lie about Phate's.
18:50 [@Pavanne] so if he wasn't dead then he is now
18:50 [@Pavanne] um, Scotty assures me he is dead, and I want to confirm thAT BEFORE GOINGF out
18:51 * jon has no alibi except that i have been frantically phoning and emailing ppl about the damned freshers fair
18:51 * Inquisitor has Nick as an alibi
18:52 * adam probably has no alibi, but since we don't know when or where he died it all seems a bit pointless
18:52 [@Inquisitor] And Edith, from 6:30.
18:52 * Pavanne goes out- don't do anything nasty
18:53 [@Pavanne] oh, caius fresahers' fair is oob for helpers when they're actually on stalls
18:53 [@Pavanne] as are other freshers' fairs
18:53 [@Scotsman] 'k
18:53 [@Pavanne] not for visitors between visitors
18:54 [@Scotsman] have a good evening Pavanne
18:54 [@Minister] Yep. My alibi is that I was in hall with Ben Durbin
18:55 [+Katamarino] what time do i need an alibi for?
18:55 [+Katamarino] :p
18:55 <-- Snapdragon leaves (I don't want to let the smoke out)
19:02 <-- Minister leaves
19:38 --> Minister joins
19:40 [@thr33] hi Minister
19:43 [+Katamarino] oh well, if anyone cares, alibi is I have been in kent all day and havent killed anyone! :)
19:46 adam set +v Minister
19:48 [@Scotsman] oooh +os
19:49 * Scotsman missed that development
19:50 [@adam] you nearly didn't get one
19:51 --> SupperingSis joins
19:51 [+Minister] Has anyone claimed the kill of Jeff?
19:51 [+Minister] Or does anyone know anything?
19:51 [@adam] all we know is Scotsman claims Phate told him he was dead
19:51 [@Scotsman] adam: :(
19:51 [@Scotsman] we have yet to have any confirmation from phate or anyone and Pavanne has gone out for the night
19:52 * adam tries phoning Phate, but he doesn't answer
19:52 [@thr33] hmm
19:53 [@thr33] maybe Phate and Scotsman are in league?
19:53 [+Minister] It's possible
19:53 [@adam] thr33: you mean Scotsman is convincing us all that Phate is dead so we won't be wary when he leaps out and kills us?
19:54 Scotsman set +v SupperingSis
19:54 [@thr33] yeah, something like that
19:54 [+Minister] It would be a very clever way of operating...
19:54 Scotsman set -v Sista
19:54 [@thr33] Minister: too clever for those two? ;)
19:55 [@Scotsman] thr33: hopefully Phate will report and you'll see he is dead
19:55 [@adam] except that if Phate turns out not to be dead then he and Scotsman would be quite plainly mafia
19:55 [@Scotsman] indeed
19:56 <-- SupperingSis leaves
19:57 [+Minister] Scotsman: Did he give any details of time of death?
19:57 [@Scotsman] Minister: no, 'cos he was dead
19:57 [@Scotsman] so I didn't ask any questions
19:57 [+Minister] Where were you when you saw him?
19:57 [@Scotsman] I was in the queue for dinner and he came up behind me and said "boo"
19:57 [+Minister] OK
19:57 [@Scotsman] and I jumped 1ft in the air :)
19:59 [@thr33] hehe
19:59 [@thr33] Phate likes doing that to people
20:26 --> Sista joins
20:29 [@Phate] umm, why have we all got ops in #townspeople?
20:29 [+Katamarino] i don't :'(
20:30 [@Scotsman] Phate: so that way we can +v players who join
20:30 [+Minister] It's so that we can op when Pavanne isn't around
20:32 [@thr33] Phate: are you dead?
20:34 [+Minister] Ah! Ohate
20:34 [+Minister] Phate even.
20:34 [+Minister] No comment. Grr....I wonder if the Scotsman conspiracy is true.
20:35 [@thr33] hmmmmm
20:35 [@thr33] quite possibly we should lynch them both
20:35 [@Scotsman] umm
20:35 [@Scotsman] he is dead
20:35 [@Scotsman] honest!
20:35 [@Phate] i am dead :(
20:35 [@Scotsman] he told me
20:35 [@thr33] ahh
20:35 [@thr33] ok
20:36 [@Scotsman] ok to deop now?
20:36 [@thr33] Phate: what time?
20:36 [@Scotsman] thr33: shut up
20:36 Scotsman set -o Phate
20:36 [+Phate] 1 sec
20:36 Scotsman set -v Phate
20:36 [@thr33] heh, isn't that an allowed thing to know?
20:36 [@Scotsman] not from him
20:36 [@thr33] oh
20:36 [@Scotsman] we have to wait for reports I think
20:36 [@thr33] sorry :)
20:36 [@Scotsman] :)
20:36 [@thr33] k
20:37 [+Minister] Bad luck Phate. I will try to avenge you.
20:37 [@Scotsman] we don't want this game to be muppetised whilst Pavanne isn't around
20:37 [+Minister] Unless it was suicide just to confuse us
20:37 [@thr33] lol
20:37 [@Scotsman] [not that I'm saying Phate would blab, but we want to remove the chance]
20:38 [+Minister] Man, that would be confusing
20:38 [+Katamarino] lol
20:38 [+Katamarino] i am already confused!
20:38 [@Scotsman] heh
21:18 [@Kirika] Settlers, M30 Catz, now, directoins in #assasssins
21:18 [@Kirika] You must agree no kill
21:35 --> Abner joins
21:37 [+Minister] Hi Abner
21:37 [+Minister] Are you happy for us to have a no kill agreement at our shared society Abner?
21:38 [@Kirika] <Snapdragon> don't trust him Abner, he's evil
21:38 [+Minister] meeeeeee?
21:38 [@Kirika] yep, you
21:39 [@Kirika] you're evil
21:39 [+Minister] That's harsh
21:39 [+Minister] I might crush the brains of infants, but I'm not really evil
21:40 [@Kirika] well, for most defintions of evil you are included if you kill babies
21:45 Kirika set +v Abner
21:45 [+Abner] Thank you
21:47 [+Abner] NKA for shared society will be fine Minister.
21:50 [+Abner] Good night.
21:51 <-- Abner leaves
21:58 <-- SupperingSis leaves (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
22:57 * Minister returns
22:57 [+Minister] Didn't kill anyone :-(
23:04 [+Katamarino] lol
23:06 [+Minister] If you'd like to wander onto my corridor...
23:07 [@Scotsman] ls *.mpg
23:07 [@Scotsman] no, that ought to go into my shell terminal
23:08 * Minister understands that
23:47 <-- Banichi leaves
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00:03 [@adam] my, it's quiet here
00:03 [@adam] presumably because everyone is playing settlers
00:04 [@Pavanne] well, I'm about to write an email to Bjoern, and go to bed
00:04 <-- Katamarino leaves (Ping timeout: 360 seconds)
00:04 [@Pavanne] but I don't count
00:05 * adam has had an evening remarkably devoid of people trying to kill him
00:05 [+Minister] I'm around adam
00:05 [+Minister] adam: come up to my coridor any time
00:06 [@adam] I didn't say I wanted people to try to kill me
00:08 [+Minister] Really? Makes life much moe exciting
00:08 [@adam] no-one's admitted to killing Phate, I assume?
00:08 [@adam] Minister: I can do without excitement at my time of life
00:08 [+Minister] No. /me reads website
00:08 [@Pavanne] if I didn't want people to try to kill me, I wouldn't play assassins...
00:09 * adam wonders why he actually is playing
00:09 [+Minister] The body, once again with a blast wound in the back of the head, was found in the Trinity Hall porters' lodge. There was an exceptional quantity of blood smeared about the floor.
00:09 [@Pavanne] there's a serious flaw in that
00:09 [+Minister] Right, head shot from behind. In Tit Hall plodge. I wonder whether he was leaving or entering
00:09 [@adam] so no-one has seen anyone coming yet
00:10 [@adam] it looks rather like Scotsman again
00:10 [+Minister] 6p.m. sounds like hall time to me, I guess he was coming in
00:10 [@adam] but he denies it this time
00:10 [@adam] yeah, could probably have been anyone who knew what time TH hall is
00:10 [+Minister] Yes, he said Jeff came up to him and told him he was dead
00:10 [+Minister] Funny how Scotsman survived given that he was in the hall queue
00:10 [@adam] although how do you sneak up behind someone as they go into the plodge?
00:11 [+Minister] yes good point, if Phate was entering, someone must have come up behind him-seen him in town?
00:11 [@adam] if he wasn't being cautious you might be able to hide in the alcove where the pidges are
00:11 [@Pavanne] I don't know which way he was facing, incidentally
00:11 [@adam] but it'd be very risky, if he saw you there you'd be totally cornered
00:12 [@Pavanne] the smears suggested the corpse had been moved a little
00:12 [@adam] oho
00:13 [+Minister] hmmm...I don't know the plodge very well. It does sound risky
00:13 [@adam] are you allowed to tell us what this means in game terms? he was killed near TH plodge and the killer moved his corpse there?
00:13 [@adam] Minister: it's the typical layout, a long desk with a door opposite either end, except one end has a long alcove with pigeonholes
00:13 [@adam] (I note that the typical layout I describe is not the layout of Selwyn plodge, ofc)
00:14 [@Pavanne] If he had been dragged any distance, there would have been a trail of blood.
00:15 [@adam] so he was killed in the plodge?
00:15 [@Pavanne] Indeed. But for some reason, someone moved him slightly, or maybe tried to move him.
00:16 [+Minister] hmmm...
00:16 [@Pavanne] There was a terrible lot of blood
00:16 [+Minister] I take it you can't say whether the bullet hole was band-shaped or pellet-shaped or other?
00:16 [@Pavanne] (well, he was missing the back of his head, poor chap)
00:16 [@Pavanne] It was a blast wound.
00:17 [@adam] bang kill, I assume
00:17 [@Pavanne] (yes)
00:17 [@adam] anything of note on the body?
00:18 [@Pavanne] Not that I know.
00:18 [@adam] just wondering what this deal with trying to move the body around was
00:18 [@adam] any claw or bite marks?
00:18 [+Minister] Hmm..Scotsman did ask to leave notes as a rule last game
00:18 [@Pavanne] No, just the blast wound.
00:19 [@Pavanne] Minister: well, he did once.
00:19 [+Minister] I think he planned to write more
00:20 [@adam] did it look as though a werewolf might have been sniffing around at the body to see if it had the stench of guilt on it?
00:25 [@Pavanne] The werewolf attends the official (and not represented) funeral- it doesn't need to leave marlks on corpses.
00:27 [+Minister] It would make life much easier if it did
00:27 [@Pavanne] hmmm, is it really bad that after about 36 hours of vegetarianism I have a terrible desire for a gardies burger?
00:27 [@Pavanne] Minister: not for the werewolf :)
00:28 [@adam] Pavanne: get a gardies vegeburger
00:28 [@Pavanne] adam: I will next time
00:28 [@Pavanne] right now, it's non-trivial
00:31 [@adam] was Phate killed at exactly 18:00?
00:31 [@Pavanne] All forensic evidence available to me suggests so.
00:32 [@adam] ok
00:32 * adam is checking IRC alibis
00:32 * Inquisitor has been occupied here since 7:00. Edith can alibi me, and vice versa.
00:32 [@Pavanne] though this is not one of the more precisely determinable situations
00:32 [@Inquisitor] What news of late? I'm vaguely aware of phate dying.
00:33 [@Pavanne] More evidence on the manner of death.
00:33 [@adam] phate died around 6, capgunned in TH plodge
00:35 --> Edith|breakfast joins
00:36 <-- edith|bed leaves
00:36 --> Edith joins
00:36 Pavanne set +v Edith
00:36 [+edith|bed] That's better.
00:36 [+edith|bed] Incidentally my housemates are bastards.
00:36 [+edith|bed] I'm not saying why
00:38 [+Minister] Not even if I ask?
00:38 [+edith|bed] Yes
00:39 [+Minister] I won't ask then
00:39 [@Inquisitor] It's almost entirely unrelated to Mafia.
00:39 [+edith|bed] now should I try and hug Tom or will he shoot me?
00:39 [@Inquisitor] Yes...
00:40 [+edith|bed] Nah, hug net, he's not listening
00:40 [@Inquisitor] I've told you, trying to hug me will be interpreted as an attack, and is specifically excluded from our no-kill agreement.
00:40 * Inquisitor notes net beating up Edith in the background.
00:41 [+edith|bed] ow
00:41 [+Minister] You guys have a no-kill? Boring
00:42 [@Inquisitor] Within the house and surrounds only.
00:42 [@adam] I think just within their house and surrounding area
00:42 [@adam] timing
00:42 [@Inquisitor] Oh, and when popping to the shop.
00:42 [@Pavanne] for social reasons seems sensible
00:42 [+edith|bed] Put it like this. Either we have a no kill agreement or one of us dies fast.
00:42 [@Inquisitor] It would be impossibly paranoia-inducing to live here otherwise.
00:42 [+Minister] I should have a word with Ross on similar grounds
00:42 [@Inquisitor] Ross lives near you?
00:42 * edith|bed waves at Inquisitor
00:43 * Inquisitor waves back.
00:43 [+Minister] Edith: what if you're both illuminati?
00:43 [+edith|bed] Then we kill one just to put up an appearance
00:43 [@adam] Minister: the odds are small
00:43 [@Inquisitor] Minister: Then we'd know, and not kill each other. We made the agreement before reading our character types.
00:43 [+Minister] Inq: Same college, he has keys to most of the stuff I have keys to
00:44 [@adam] your room?
00:44 [@Inquisitor] Minister: Up to you, I guess, but would it significantly impede your life to avoid seing each other by surprise?
00:44 * Inquisitor can't keep a locked door between himself and Edith.
00:45 [+edith|bed] Well you could but it would involve stealing my keys and I would get annoyed pretty quickly
00:45 [@adam] Inquisitor: you could lock him inside the house and leave the key in the outside of the lock
00:45 [@Pavanne] No-one steals anyone's keys for assassins purposes, PLEASE
00:46 [@Inquisitor] Erm... There are multiple doors. And the screwdriver trick works.
00:46 [@Inquisitor] And no, we're not doing that. There's a 'no silly buggers' too.
00:47 [+Minister] He doesn't have my room key, but he is around in college
00:58 * adam sleeps
00:59 [@adam] g'night
01:00 [@Pavanne] goodnight
01:04 [+Minister] nn
01:08 * Minister decides it's safe to go out now
01:42 [@thr33] gah!
01:42 [@thr33] you people make too much scrollback
01:42 * thr33 will read in the morning
01:43 --> Snapdragon joins
01:44 Pavanne set +v Snapdragon
01:44 [+Snapdragon] woo
01:44 [+Snapdragon] ph34r me all those that hear my voice
01:45 [@Pavanne] I think it's just me rigfht now, and I don't ph34r you 'cos I'm outside your village
01:46 [+Minister] I ph34r him
01:47 [+Snapdragon] you should ph34r me, else you are not properly human
01:47 [+Snapdragon] arrgh, Pav is an alien
01:47 [@Pavanne] it's possible
01:48 [@Pavanne] though not one you need to worry aboiut
01:49 [+Minister] Are you the werewolf?
01:49 [@thr33] she is the bringer of death!!
01:49 [+Snapdragon] beware Pavanne
01:49 [+Snapdragon] and also the ides of march
01:49 [@Pavanne] that was last game! Don't shoot the messenger
01:50 [@thr33] Pavanne: the game where noone was trying?
01:50 [@Pavanne] no, the first game
01:50 [@thr33] ok
01:50 [@Pavanne] someone was trying there
01:50 [@thr33] :P
01:50 [@Pavanne] several, in fact, until I shot the,m
01:51 [+Snapdragon] and then got killed
01:51 [+Snapdragon] thanks to my l33t plan
01:51 * Inquisitor is awake.
01:51 [@Pavanne